Every camera company is a bad company.

What you say would make a lot more sense if so many perfectly good drivers were not being run out of the industry as a corrective measure.

I explained already how those bad drivers got into trucking in the first place. The good drivers are run out by the "shackles", and you are looking at their replacements. Solution: don't run out your good drivers, and you won't have to deal with the even worse ones. It's no longer my problem that the drivers you are describing here are the answer to my going 3 feet past a limit line—heaven forbid.

If a farmer has no rain, and decides to do a rain dance to fix the problem, he can say "at least I'm doing something". Make sure your cure is not worse than the disease!

 

Define "rarely"

 

I do that and play on my phone

 

Sounds like you want to take the conversation too far off topic. The topic is cameras in trucks. You would need to tie your need to know how rarely my employer utilizes cameras to spy on me in my own line of work with the topic of whether or not trucking companies are good companies if they use cameras on their truckers.
Leading a conversation further and further away from the point of it is known as trolling. The question repeatedly comes up here, and in other places, how people mind driving with cameras focused on them but they don't mind a regular employer using cameras on them. In my line of work, law enforcement, it is necessary to use cameras on known criminals because they pose substantial risk on my person if there is no means to monitor their actions. Ordinary citizens are not known criminals, and should not be treated as such. I don't know how often my supervisors watch me solely for the purposes of trying to quality control my work, but I do have a union, and they wouldn't put up with that either. I do know my fellow workers don't get in trouble for these things very often—as opposed to the typical truck driver that gets cited at least weekly, and some daily. And as I said, the footage is not sent to third parties.

 

Some guy in mgmt was fired for looking at a driver facing camera and was checking a female driver getting well let's just say undressed....they terminated him immediately upon proof that he was indeed doing this. Be aware there are A1 technology cameras being installed in trucks that can see road signs like speed limits, etc...Samsara is one of them, I'm seeing drivers quit over it...we need to take control over things once again, no drivers there wouldn't even be management jobs....their jobs will come to a grind to as A1 and autonomous trucks take over in yrs to come...at the very best mgmt will be reduced...

 

Lytx does that as well.

So, why would a driver quit because the camera can read signs that he should be reading? Oh, that's right. Because he's speeding, failing to stop at stop signs, driving in restricted lanes, etc. That's why they are there, to weed out the unsafe drivers.

 

Your approach is to complain about reality. My approach is to deal with it. That's the difference between you and me. Reality does not care if the guy is quitting for a good reason or a bad one. Reality is that he's quitting, and you as a trucking company better have a plan B that works better still if you want to survive.
My experience is that people are marvelous at criticizing other people, but they are terrible at finding replacements that are not worse, still. This is a logical extension of the law of supply and demand. The more you reject, the more limited your remaining options will be. Don't like people who go 3 feet past a limit line? Maybe get some illegal aliens. Mexicans typically don't even stop at them at all, and usually go no slower than 15 mph through a stop sign. Even in Puerto Rico, USA, if you stopped at one, the car behind you would crash into you and both would be sent to hospital. Don't believe me? Go see for yourself.

Still, I reject the insulting notion that truckers like to break laws. I have more respect for the average trucker than that. I think truckers fine-tune all the one-size-fits-all laws into individual situations because a ubiquitous philosophy toward law compliance is not realistic. It's a managerial gestalt approach that ignores individual situations.

This is a hard issue to argue, and it has roots in the various interpretations of law ranging from Spanish common law to English statuatory law, but in the end, people were never meant to serve laws; laws were meant to serve people. And America has so many laws today that nobody can be realistically be expected to know even maybe 1% of them all, let alone make every situation comply with all of them.

 

This goes in to the actual implementation. If they quit by mere mention of the system being in place, then they don't need to be in our trucks. As long as we continue as we have been, they don't quit. Why? Because we aren't harping on them for rolling the stop sign or popping 1-2 mph over going down a hill. But we will monitor and/or intervene when someone has an unusually high number of triggered events up to an including termination for safety. We don't generally have problems finding replacements as we have built a reputation of respecting the drivers, putting them in great equipment and paying them well, on time, every time. This respect is a 2-ways street. They just have to respect the laws and our equipment and they can remain here as long as they wish (most stay until retirement).

 

Not at all."Rarely" is what YOU said.Is rarely once a day? Once a month? 3 times a year? I think it is important.

I worked for a company that installed driver facing cameras. We were told NO ONE is looking at these cameras, yada, yada. But a shipping lead showed me a website, where every driver was shown multiple times. If no one is looking at these cameras, why the need for the site to store pictures. These cameras constantly recorded, not just in times of incident.
And I would care if a regular employer was using them.

 

This may be different, but I drove a Penske lease International for a few weeks. It had the camera that would read signs.It would slow the truck down when passing a sign that said "School Zone 35 MPH when lights are flashing" But it would even throw on the brakes, when they weren't flashing, and the speed limit was 55.Because it read the numbers.