Every new CDL driver needs Tanker endorsement.

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  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

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    In my opinion anyone getting a CDL should get the Tanker endorsement. In the old days a CDL driver only need a Tanker endorsement to pull a shiny round trailer full of liquids, like a gasoline tanker. That changed in the 2000s. Today, whether you pull a flatbed, dry van, or reefer trailer you may need a Tanker endorsement to haul certain common freight. The Tanker endorsement is required if you pull one piece of freight in your trailer that holds 119 gallons or if you haul several pieces of freight containing liquids that weight 1,000 lbs or more.

    If your customer ships a few 55 gallon drums or an IBC tote full of liquid, your load will require a Tanker endorsement. The round trailers for liquids still need the endorsement. The computer test is easy and it never needs to be renewed.
     
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  3. GraniteState

    GraniteState Light Load Member

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    How about water and other liquids.
    I use to haul a lot of water, Gatorade and other Pepsi products.

    Of course the language in these things is never straight forward.
    "Your cargo includes liquid or gaseous individual containers larger than 119 gallon capacity. The containers are loaded, and not empty. The total combined volume in those containers exceeds 1,000 gallons."

    So 42,000 pounds of beer, water, pepsi etc would be ok so long as its under 1,000 gallons?
     
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    Don379 Heavy Load Member

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    You don’t need a tanker endorsement for anything more than what is clearly stated for the endorsement. Unless you guys can properly site your source where you are getting this information which sounds false. Those totes and drums would have to be permantly mounted.
    Anyhow, here’s how it is stated
    “A tank endorsement is required if your vehicle needs a class A or B cdL and you want to haul a liquid or liquid gas in a permanently mounted cargo tank rated at greater than 450 liters (119 gallons) or a portable tank rated at 1,000 gallons or more”
     
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  5. GraniteState

    GraniteState Light Load Member

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    Figured it was bs. Requiring a tanker endorsement to haul packaged water, beer etc seemed dumb and would cause all shorts of problems.
    But with government you can never be too sure.
     
  6. Gearjammin' Penguin

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    FXF requires it because we haul totes, and given that they have a whole building full of people whose sole job is to keep up with regulation changes, I'm pretty sure they know what they're talking about.

    Besides, you can never have too many endorsements.
     
  7. ColoradoLinehaul

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    If you're gonna have a tanker endorsement, you might as well get the doubles/triples and hazmat endorsement and get yourself an LTL/Linehaul job and earn the money too. $90K - $140K a year running linehaul.
     
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    Tank vehicle means any commercial motor vehicle that is designed to transport any liquid or gaseous materials within a tank or tanks having an individual rated capacity of more than 119 gallons and an aggregate rated capacity of 1,000 gallons or more that is either permanently or temporarily attached to the vehicle or the chassis
    In 2011 fmcsa clarified that dry van operators who are hauling totes, drums or cylinders ate required to have the tanker endorsement.

    Tanker Endorsement Regulations: Are You Driving Illegally? - Trinity Logistics
     
  9. tscottme

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    Tanker is not required for packaged beer, water, etc.
     
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    tscottme Road Train Member

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    You don't need Tanker endorsement to haul liquids in consumer quantity packages. You can haul a 53 foot van, reefer, or flatbed full of filled beer cans, water bottles, gatorade etc without the endorsements. The endorsement is required when carrying a bulk liquid container that has a capacity over 119 gallons or if carrying several bulk liquid containers with an aggregate weight over 1,000 pounds. Remember the rule is 119 gallons or 1,000 pounds.
     
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    Effective in all states as of July 8, 2015, shippers moving contained liquids in dry van trailers and intermodal containers must comply with tanker endorsement regulations.

    Compliance with tanker endorsement requirements to minimize supply chain disruptions | Schneider

    The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) redefined what is considered to be a tank in a 2011 rule and for the first time included capacity requirements. Under the rule, a tank is:

    1. “Any commercial vehicle that is designed to transport any liquid or gaseous material within a tank or tanks having an individual rate capacity of more than 119 gallons,” and
    2. “An aggregated capacity of 1,000 gallons or more that is either permanently or temporarily attached to the vehicle or chassis.” Tanks that are manifested either as being “Empty” or as “Residue Last Contained” on a bill of lading do not apply under the rule.
    In addition to defining a tank, the tanker endorsement rule is designed to educate drivers about controlling the effects of surge inherent in transporting a large amount of liquid. Surge occurs when liquid changes position based on gravity or other momentum, such as when a vehicle accelerates or decelerates.

    If a load meets these capacity and configuration requirements, it must be transported by a driver with a “tank endorsement” on his or her CDL. Moving a load without the proper endorsements could cause significant shipping delays if the driver is found in violation and placed out of service. This enforcement is driving the need to more aggressively work toward compliance and awareness.

    What are the tanker endorsement regulations?
    The official definition of a tank has led to confusion regarding which drivers are required to have a tanker endorsement on their CDLs. Issued by passing a tank knowledge test, the endorsement ensures a driver can react to those situations when there is a risk of surge and where there is a higher center of gravity. Drivers must acquire a tanker endorsement from the state that grants the CDL.

    To help clarify which shipments require drivers to obtain a tank endorsement and what quantity amounts apply, the FMCSA has issued regulatory guidance on the rule:

    Types of drivers requiring the endorsement

    • Drivers transporting any liquids in tanks that are either permanently or temporarily attached to the vehicle or the chassis and exceeds 1,000 gallons in total, or any liquid or gaseous material in a permanent tank that exceeds 1,000 gallons total
    • Drivers hauling filled cylinders (containers used to haul industrial gas) or intermediate bulk containers (IBC), which are shipped in a van and exceed 1,000 gallons
    • Drivers conveying multiple IBCs that are greater than 119-gallon capacity and have a total capacity of 1,000 gallons or more and that are strapped, chained or otherwise secured to a vehicle
    • Less-than-truckload drivers carrying bulk liquids in greater than 119-gallon capacity and have a total capacity of 1,000 gallons or more
     
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