Frameless end dump?

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  1. mile marker 27

    mile marker 27 Road Train Member

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    Looking for a used 36-39’, frameless end dump for grain, lime and fertilizer. What makes and models do y’all recommend?
     
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  3. Tall Mike

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    I had good luck with a Mac half round. I didn’t own it just pulled it. The trailer was spec’d super light weight. With the little Petey pulling it, and keeping fuel low my empty weight was mid 28’s. EDA829D9-06EF-4B37-8D9E-8BDDDEC2106E.jpeg

    If I was ever to buy one wouldn’t hesitate to buy a Mac.
     
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    mile marker 27 Road Train Member

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    That trailer must’ve been built pretty heavy, cause I’d figured you to be lighter than that. Is that about a 32’er?
     
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    No, 28’s is way light for a sleeper truck pulling a bucket. Most of the guys I know, met, or ran with were low to mid 30’s empty weight depending on the truck and trailer were set up. Looks shorter in the pic because of angle that trailer was 40ft.
     
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    mile marker 27 Road Train Member

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    Sure, thought it was shorter than that by the pic. 28 is pretty good fer a 40’er. I got a 38’ steel hopper that puts my W9L at 29.2. Really surprised me first time I scaled. My 40’ Timpte super hopper(aluminum/composite puts me at 27.75.
     
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    Tall Mike Road Train Member

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    yeah the angle of the pic makes it look like a shorty.

    I can so relate on the 900...
    Boss man had me pulling some hopper a while back, I was 30k empty. I don’t know jack about hopper work but I thought that was a bit heavy.
    Im 21680 full fuel then add another 250lbs for my big self and you can see what I deal with.
    Been trying to get back in a 389 but they all have Detroit power, I’ll never give up a Cat for a Detroit. Those aren’t regular Series 60’s either, they are a Fitzgerald built gliders, so they take the suck up another notch.

    Luckily all that hopper work I did he had bid flat rate so the weight wasn’t an issue that time.


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    Check out East too. I pulled an East bucket for a while I thought it was pretty solid and well built unit.
     
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    mile marker 27 Road Train Member

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    That hopper sure nuff looks good on your rig mike. I can see why you stepped back fer a pic!!
     
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    mile marker 27 Road Train Member

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    Those slick sided Mac’s and Vantages look really nice. Are they as heavy as the stave sided East, Mates and Travis’s? And also are they as sturdy?
     
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    I pulled an East Genesis that was 36ft with a Pete 386. Iirc, my light weight was right around 33k. The genesis being double walled made a huge difference, plus it had a stainless floor in it. The nicest part was, the double wall almost acted to insulate it. I could salt the floor and cleanly dump coal when it was close to being single digits in the winter. A lot of guys near me seem to really like those half rounds like Mike had though. Guess it's preference and what you're hauling.
     
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