Future Owner Operator looking for my dream truck

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by MrcleanTN, Feb 10, 2024.

  1. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Heavy Load Member

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    Why do you want a pre-emission engine?
    My truck gets 8mpg@75mph I go through about 1.5 gals of DEF for every 150 gals of fuel. So if its for DEF expense, then that is a little short sighted.
    (For the record, counting idling time, Im at an average of 7.6 over the last 60,000+ miles and I run 70-75 as much as I can)
     
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  3. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    If someone pays$3.90 per gallon at 6mpg that $0.65 cpm. The number changes on the actual diesel price someone pays and actually mpg truck gets. My only point was even 5mpg was not unheard back then with the cat engines. Someone planing on running and olde truck should be ready for that’s possible.
     
  4. MrcleanTN

    MrcleanTN Bobtail Member

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    Idk..buying a used truck not knowing the history the emission stuff scares me a little.
     
  5. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    I absolutely agree that you can easily get crap fuel mileage on an old truck, the c15 i ran most recently was pretty terrible, lifetime 5 mpg and it took a lot to get it that good, but there was something quite wrong with it, tons of black smoke, never really figured out what it was.

    My 2 3406es.... older engines, but way better fuel useage, only a light haze (when cold) that clears in 2 minutes

    6 mpg lifetime and
    6.5 mpg lifetime respectively (though i added 12v ac and bunk heaters to both in the last 10k miles, so both should go up a bit...)

    But my point is that if the spread between 6mpg and 10 mpg (at 4$fuel) is only 26 cpm, that savings if lost on maint is not great


    Knightcrawler saying he gets 7.6 mpg gives 53 cpm and a def 4$/g at 1:100 gal is a def cost of 4 cpm

    So is he THAT much better than my 66 cpm mileage when his is 57?

    Better is better, and yes thats 9k saved per 100k, but what about the maintenance/downtime, is it actually negligible or better than 20 cpm ? If yes, great for him, but if it isnt, its not really so simple to say older worse.

    Number of times ive needed codes cleared, a computer on my vehicles, 0, but a newer truck a mechanic wont even touch it without breaking out the computer
     
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  6. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

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    Everything should scare you about entering the owner op field right now, especially when you're using your own funds.
     
  7. MrcleanTN

    MrcleanTN Bobtail Member

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    It don’t really scare me to much. If I wasn’t going into it with all equipment paid for along with insurance the first year I wouldn’t even think about it.Just after almost 30 years I’m ready for a new challenge
     
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  8. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    don’t have to worry about def while it’s sitting in the shop for 3 weeks waiting on parts

    And im not dealing with an eld in my truck either
     
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  9. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Heavy Load Member

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    Completely understand that. Ive toyed with the possibility of selling mine. The wife and I are closing on our house in Florida in a month (almost exactly) and Im not sure if I want to be an O-O out of Florida or just go back to work for someone.. Havent really decided for sure one way or the other yet. Im 67, had my CDL 40 years next month. Until 6 years ago was a company driver, so you are now where I was 6 years ago.

    I have a custom 2020 Western Star 5700XE. 505hp DD15, 10 speed, 308 rears. I get about 8mpg at 75mph, and 8.5 at 70. Over the last 60,000 miles, counting idle time, Im averaging 7.6 mpg. Single 82" bunk, tan leather and cherry wood interior. Leather heated driver seat (I live in Minnesota) and block heater. Refrigerator (that I havent used in 2 years, but I DID check it a few weeks ago, it still works). Disk brakes all around. I replaced the steers about 50,000 miles ago. Drives are still original and have a little rubber left (full of fuel, the steers are 10,800 pounds so they wear faster). Only damage that was done to it was I hit a deer about 3.5 years ago that took out the left fender (insurance covered it). For the past 2 years I have just run from Minneapolis to Green Bay and back once a week (about 650mi round trip). I dont smoke, but I do take 2 of my dogs with me.

    The truck has just over 250,000 miles on it (252k maybe?) and is still under its extended warranty for almost 4 years. Im leased to Landstar so the truck is inspected every 120 days.

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  10. MrcleanTN

    MrcleanTN Bobtail Member

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    This!
     
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  11. roundhouse

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    The downtime waiting for some stupid sensor from China will cost more than the extra fuel for a pre emission engine .
     
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