Getting ahead of 34hr reset, help me figure this out.

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  1. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    One other thing, now that Uber and Lyft have basically taken over, I feel cheated. I imagine all the fun I could have had if those services had been around when I was driving. When I left the industry they were just barely hitting their prime. Sigh.......so much I could have done.

    My favorite thing was when I was with Trimac. I used to run my 70 out constantly. Then they paid me layover pay at, I think, 100 bucks a day. I remember one time, I was sitting in Pittsburgh, eating a Primanti brothers sandwich drinking a beer and thinking that this trucking gig did have its advantages if you played it right.

    Man, I knew it was a mistake to come back to this site. Now I'm itching to get back in the truck and leave this school teaching stuff behind!
     
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  3. ZVar

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    You need to learn to trip plan better. If you keep running out of time you are either logging unnecessary work (time someone else is unloading our trailer) or you are simply running out of time. If it's the second one you need to be aware of how much time you have remaining before accepting the load and let dispatch know when you can deliver. If they are ok with you taking a 34 in the middle of the load (depending on situation, may not be a problem) then fine. If not they can assign it to someone else so you can take your reset.

    Mainly is knowing how many hours you have available so you know if you can even do the run.
     
  4. LTL Bull

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    Waiting time at the dock is supposed to be logged on duty unless relieved. Under the old days it was more fudgeable. Not so much now. Hit a shipper at 0700, log off duty while sitting to be unloaded and sign back in at 1500 when you leave, drive 10 hours, have an accident and see what happens when an ambulance chaser finds out you logged 0700-1500 in dock such and such as off duty.
     
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  5. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Where does it state that int he regs? If you are talking about this line "(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;" you conveniently left out the part about "waiting on dispatch" that is a requirement.

    No, you do not have to log on duty while getting unloaded, unless you are actually helping to unload.
     
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    Some will claim that due to section 395.1 you do not have to log time at the dock on duty. However 395.5 says explicitly all time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising or assisting in the loading unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate a commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipment loaded or unloaded.
    Therefore if you check in and bump the dock unless you are specifically relieved from duty by your motor carrier if you are in attendance of that vehicle and ready to move it when told to move it Or waiting for the lumpers to be done it’s supposed to be logged on duty. some choose to ignore section 5 of that law. If you were told to leave the vehicle and go to a break room or somesuch thing that’s a different story but if you’re on that vehicle waiting for them to come get you it’s on duty

    don’t believe me? Ask a DOT cop or a reputable safety supervisor
     
  7. ZVar

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    Mind quoting the relevant section you are talking about?
     
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  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    When you take 34 hours off duty, you have a fresh 70 hours to play with. In effect, it zeros out all your previous 8 days so you don't need to count those any more.
     
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