Getting ahead of 34hr reset, help me figure this out.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Shaggytc, Apr 15, 2021.

  1. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    If I'm in the sleeper, I log sleeper. Never says I have to be listening for a knock on the side of the cab.

    However, I do take your point. In your scenario, I would make doubly sure I was working for a company that paid me appropriately for my time sitting. If pay was adequate, the same philosophy would apply. I worked as much as I could, made as much as I could and now I rest and relax. Same results, different path.
     
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  3. LTL Bull

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    Been out here long enough to get what you mean . I ran ILLEGAL a lot, but not unsafe. I slept when I was tired and I rolled when I wasn’t. Too many cameras and electronic nanny state crap out here now to be a cowboy. I miss the old days. Just don’t want someone to get nailed by bad info.
     
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  4. LTL Bull

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    Used to love my loose leaf book:cool::cool:
     
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  5. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    Dude seriously just log sleeper berth. Why would you log on duty if you’re chilling in the bunk anyway?
     
  6. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    law only applies to driving. you can work over your 14 or 70. just cant drive
     
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  7. ZVar

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    1. You might want to get a current book. You can go online to see the current definition.
    2. You are mashing two different definitions together to get it to say what you think it says. The regs don't work that way.
    3. I've been unable to find any court case where someone lost, and was not actually working.
     
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  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    The regs have changed quite a bit in the last 10 years. For instance, you page shows the definition of being in or on a parked commercial vehicle requiring to be On Duty. That was changed sometime in 2012, sometime after the publication of your copy. They changed it to reflect that it would be legal to be Off Duty in a parked commercial vehicle (or otherwise be in the Sleeper if that applies).

    So, if you;re backed up to a dock getting (un)loaded, your commercial vehicle is parked. Therefore you may be Off Duty or Sleeper.
     
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  9. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    I realize that, but people don't take 34 to do more on-duty not driving tasks.
     
  10. LTL Bull

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    Post the updated reg.
     
  11. LTL Bull

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    This is from eCFR, current FMCSA regs, off their website this morning.


    On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

    (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

    (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

    (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

    (4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:

    (i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in §397.5 of this subchapter;

    (ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth;or

    (iii) Up to 3 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 7 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;

    (6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;

    (7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-crash, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;
     
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