Getting ahead of 34hr reset, help me figure this out.

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  1. Rogerthat

    Rogerthat Medium Load Member

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    Balderdash. If you’re in the truck waiting, you can log SB. And you can “relieve” yourself. Use a pee bottle...
     
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  3. Muskie

    Muskie Medium Load Member

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    Not all of the 14 hours "starting the clock" have to be "on duty time" thus off your 70. In fact, most is not, if used outside the 11 available drive hours as "off time" or "sleeper". I see some possible misinterpretations on the 8 day, 70 (not 7 day). If running recap you get your first days "on duty" hours back at midnight on the 8th day going into the 9th. For the most miles over time, it's more efficient to run your hours out as soon as possible (as long as your not unnecessarily wasting them on non driving on duty time) and do a 34 hour reset. But there are drivers that think of this as a way of life over the long term and want to run on recaps. Opp, there is no right answer here, just what fits your lifestyle.
     
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  5. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    Yes, BUT, It's not your decision to make unless you are your own motor carrier.
    Most motor carriers won't give you that permission because then they would be responsible for any incidents.
     
  6. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Except nothing in the regs state this.
    The only mention close is from Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (eCFR)
    1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

    Note the bolded part that is a requirement, that people seem to ignore. There is no other mention, or even implied notion that I've found that claims the motor carrier is the one to relive the driver. So no, the motor carrier does not, in fact, have to relive the driver when the driver is waiting to be loaded/unloaded.
     
  7. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    What does it say immediately after the part in red.
    I don't read that the same as you. Seems pretty plain
    So you are saying that as long as you are not waiting for dispatch the rules don't apply?. You are not waiting for dispatch while driving either.
     
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  8. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    It says that the waiting to be dispatched isn't satisfied, so that section doesn't apply. The only time that section applies is when waiting to be dispatched. Getting loaded/unloaded isn't waiting to be dispatched.
     
  9. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    I already edited post 74. However You are waiting to be dispatched IMO.
     
  10. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    Dispatched meaning, the loading is finished and dispatched [on it's way].
     
  11. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    I've always booked it off duty, On duty 15 minutes to back in and 15 minutes at the end and never was questioned about it.
    But I don't believe it was 100% legal.
     
  12. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    No, I'm saying the only place it mentions the motor carrier is the one to decide if you are off duty is that specific situation. There are other definitions of on duty that may apply.. Not a single one of them mention being relived by the motor carrier. All I'm saying is that "relived by motor carrier" to go off duty is either very outdated (I've only been driving 9 years, so it could have been before that) or has always been an old wives tale.
     
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  13. REALITY098765

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    I do remember having a paper in the truck for that and yes that was a while ago.
     
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