Have any of you had equipment not returned by someone you no longer work with?

Discussion in 'Intermodal Trucking Forum' started by justkeepswimming, Oct 22, 2021.

  1. justkeepswimming

    justkeepswimming Bobtail Member

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    I had a prior working/leasing agreement with another party who was using my authority. They were to reimburse me for any expenses incurred from their usage. To make a long story short, I found out they were pretty shady, and cut them off. Well, they have a few containers and chassis that they took out under my authority before I cut them off, and are not returning them to the terminals and chassis companies. They are not answering my calls and shut off their emails. At this point, would that constitute theft and a crime? Have any of you experienced anything similar?
     
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  3. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Heavy Load Member

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    Methinks you need to call a lawyer and talk to them.....now. No really you need to get on the horn right now and get actual legal advice if everything is as you said. You also need to contact insurance and inform them of the situation.
     
  4. justkeepswimming

    justkeepswimming Bobtail Member

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    I actually spoke to a lawyer a few days ago. I was receiving tons of detention bills from their usage and the attorney filed paperwork against them for the payments due. I didn't realize they still had equipment out under my authority until a few hours ago though. I received more notices and found out there is equipment that has not been returned yet. I'm going to be speaking to my attorney about it tomorrow, but am just pretty annoyed at the moment that people actually would do stuff like that.
     
  5. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Heavy Load Member

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    Sadly in this day and age that is the norm not the exception. Dont get me wrong people have always been morons who would do that kinda thing. But lately its been tuned to 11. Best thing you can do is talk to your lawyer, file for a repo and/or stolen equipment report depending on what they say and call your insurance whole being ready to accept that your stuff is likely not comimg back in the same condition it went out.
     
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  6. justkeepswimming

    justkeepswimming Bobtail Member

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    The crazy thing is that it's not my equipment. These containers belong to the shipping companies and the chassis belong to the chassis leasing companies taken out under my authority. They are purposely not returning the equipment out of spite.
     
  7. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Heavy Load Member

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    Well if your responsible for them its the same thing in this case. That said id call the company they belong to as well then. Not sure what else to tell ya though. Im a one man O/O so my experonce is limited with this kinda thing. Maybe @D.Tibbitt would have a better idea? He has been around the forums a lot longer then me.
     
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  8. justkeepswimming

    justkeepswimming Bobtail Member

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    Oh yeah. I get it's my responsibility. I'm going to see what the attorney says, but at this point, I'm guessing I will end up filing a police report. And I will probably let the equipment company know as well. I'm hoping the added legal pressure will entice them to just promptly return the equipment and stop playing games.
     
  9. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Heavy Load Member

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    More likely they will do a chop chop on the equipment for parts then deny the hell out of having them is my guess. Or throw them off a cliff.
     
  10. justkeepswimming

    justkeepswimming Bobtail Member

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    Oh. I have witnesses, so hope that holds up
     
  11. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Ok, first you will likely not get anywhere by claiming theft. After all they had your permission to move them. This is simply a contract violation. You did have a contract right?

    Unfortunately this is one of those times being an owner sucks. You can try suing, but you still need to get that equipment to the terminal. You'll have to hire someone to get them or go get them yourself so it's not costing you more every day/week.. Then worry about money owed to you later by adding to what the lawyer is suing for.
     
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