HELP from my Arkansas Veterans - Highway 270 East of Y-City Truck Restriction Question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by BeHereNow97, Jan 13, 2022.

  1. BeHereNow97

    BeHereNow97 Heavy Load Member

    Sep 15, 2020
    I know it's a long shot but I'm hoping someone sees this before noonish tomorrow on Friday, January 14 2022.

    I'm heading to Hot Springs, Arkansas and coming from Fort Smith, Arkansas.

    Seems the fastest way is to take I-40 to HIghway 71 to Highway 270. But I looked in the 2022 Rand McNally Atlas and it seems highway 270 is a restricted route, according to the atlas, "East of Y-City - over Alexander Creek".

    Does anyone know where Alexander Creek is? I checked my Atlas, checked Google Satellite View, there's a bunch of creeks around there but I didn't find an Alexander Creek east of Y-City and I looked on the satellite view (and in the atlas) all the way to Mt. Ida. The creeks I saw immediately east of Y-City are Steep Hollow Creek, Mill Creek and Tan-A-Hill Creek.

    I looked and the fastest way around that restriction is to take Highway 71 and skip Y City and instead go south to Mena, then take Highway 88, where it meets up with Highway 270 at Pencil Bluff.

    HOWEVER, this adds 25 minutes to my trip both ways because I'll have to go back the same way that I came. So altogether that adds 50 extra minutes and I'm going to be very pressed for time tomorrow.

    So my questions for you guys are, where specifically is Alexander Creek and does anyone know what the restriction is? Is it 100% no trucks allowed east of Y-City to Alexander Creek, or is there some small bridge over an Alexander Creek (that I can't find on Google Maps nor the Atlas) where it maybe has a 30 or 35 ton limit or something like that?

    Anybody ran this route before?
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  3. Frank Speak

    Frank Speak Road Train Member

    May 3, 2016
    Check HWY 7 coming out of Russellville. It’s only about 10-15 minutes longer. I don’t know if it’s restricted or not along that stretch, but generally 7 is not restricted.
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  4. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

    Dec 9, 2011
    South west Missouri
    Last time I ran to Hot Springs, I came in the long way - I40E to Little Rock - then I30W.

    I came back empty the shorter way that you're talking. The time is about the same, regardless of the extra miles.

    If you can run 70 mph on the interstate, I'd strongly consider it - 270/71 etc is slow going. Scenic, but slow.
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  5. 062

    062 Road Train Member

    Oct 20, 2013
    I don’t know if this is the restriction.
  6. Mototom

    Mototom Road Train Member

    May 7, 2019
    Arkansas dot website has a list of weight restricted bridges.

    I found your bridge Scott county bridge #00388 Alexander creek.
    Length :45ft

    Width 40.ft curb to curb

    Three axles: 18tons
    Four axles 21 tons
    Five axles 29tons.

    "Actual posted weight limits may differ from limits displayed on map actual post d limits will take precedence weight limits subject to change without notice failure to obey posted restrictions can result in liability claims by the state of Arkansas" yada yada

    Be sure to click all THREE maps.
    Local restricted bridges
    Restricted highways
    And STATE restricted bridges
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  7. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    Jan 13, 2013
    SW Arkansas
    There's just that one bridge but no one pays attention to it. Heck, even if you go down 71, there's a 33 ton bridge south of Mena at Old Potter. Dot cops don't seem to care about either one. They may be waiting for the bridge to fail, then bill the trucking company.
  8. Mototom

    Mototom Road Train Member

    May 7, 2019
    Bump. Just trying to get a notification through to make your day a little easier.
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  9. BeHereNow97

    BeHereNow97 Heavy Load Member

    Sep 15, 2020
    Yes that sign had to be the reason for the restriction! I didn't see any other signs from Y-City to Mt. Ida about no trucks or anything like that, so it's only that weight restriction for that bridge. And that bridge is hardly some "backwatered" wooden bridge hanging on by a thread. If that restriction sign hadn't have been there I wouldn't have thought twice about going over that bridge.

    So I was empty coming from Fort Smith to Hot Springs, so I decided to take the 270/71 route in a hope to save time, since I am governed at 65 MPH. The first little part of it was rough because there was WAY more traffic than what I was expecting (I thought it would be way more rural). But, this problem was made 10X worse because of a Stevens truck leading a pack of about 15 cars/trucks and going a whopping 10 miles under the speed limit the whole time. New, heavy, who knows.

    So I stopped at the rest area for about 10 minutes to stretch and use the bathroom and when I got back on the highway, I was golden. No traffic around me and the "Steven's Crowd" was nowhere to be found for the rest of my trip. I definetly saved time doing the 270/71 route than staying on the interestate, thanks to me being empty/not being around traffic most of the way and also because I can't go 70 on the interstate anyways.

    Coming back I took your advice blairandgretchen and I took the interstate back up to Missouri.

    I feel like an idiot. I thought to check my atlas for the restriction and thought to check google maps to find specifically where Alexander Creek was, but it didn't even cross my mind to use the 511 DOT app (I was tired when I wrote my original post and had had a long day).

    Just wanted to say thanks to everyone in this thread! I couldn't reply yesterday but I saw all of your responses to the thread so I was able to make an informed decision on how to proceed. You guys helped me out a bunch as I am not familar with the vast majority of Arkansas past the interstate. Thanks!
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  10. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

    Mar 4, 2015
    Sometimes weight and/or length restrictions are in place simply to keep trucks from going that way and getting themselves in a bind. Hwy 140 out of OR into NV is one. It’s a good road other than its real desolate crossing the high desert of the weather turns on you.
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  11. 88228822

    88228822 Heavy Load Member

    Sep 26, 2018
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