Help!!! I'm being forced to haul a unsecured forklift

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Lspilot82, Jun 6, 2015.

  1. bigdogpile

    bigdogpile Road Train Member

    May 16, 2010
    fontana ca
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  3. EHB

    EHB Medium Load Member

    Apr 26, 2011
    No cents getting upset on something that could kill someone.
    It will just be one less person to worry about on the road.
    Sad but true.
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  4. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

    Dec 18, 2011
    Look it is your right to refuse to drive the truck, you are in control. So here is what I would do, quit.

    Look up in this internet the words staa and whistle blower. There is a site that explains your protections as a driver.
  5. jammer910Z

    jammer910Z Road Train Member

    May 28, 2015
    I can tell you EXACTLY how this is likely to play out.

    If you continue to haul an unsecured device, even under the order of a direct supervisor, YOU will be held responsible in the event of an accident or inspection resulting in a citation.

    When the lawsuit happens don't think for one second that management will man up and admit to coercing the driver to haul the load as directed. They'll play stupid and lay it all on you.

    Basically, as in all situations, the buck stops with the driver. If you say NO... it's NO. Hours, loads, equipment, weather... whatever. You are the captain.
  6. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

    Nov 25, 2008
    Kellogg, IA
    But one thing, if the lawsuits fly, the company will be the primary target and still be on the hook because they allowed it, even if they deny they ordered it. Unless the driver has some serious financial resources, suing the driver is useless. The same as when Willy Sutton was asked why he robbed banks, "because that is where the money is", a lawyer is going to go after who has the most financial resources. Once most drivers pay for legal services, there is not a lot left to get from them. But a company, that company's entire assets can be sold off if necessary to cover the judgement.
  7. Chasing dollars

    Chasing dollars Light Load Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    Same way we transfer ours between warehouse's. And we throw a few empty pallets on the side with the forks.( we remove the forks first.) It's not going to move if you take it easy. And our warehouse's are up to 120 miles apart. Never had one move.
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  8. OldHasBeen

    OldHasBeen Road Train Member

    Dec 16, 2010
    Amazing at the number of truck drivers that would haul an unsafe load.
  9. tsavory

    tsavory Road Train Member

    Jun 4, 2013
    Paoli, IN
    I think one could ask @Scalemaster about what DOT would have to say. I am sure he would be happy to point out the regs on the securement and the propane tank if it can stay on or has to be removed.
    But as said before your the one that's in the hotseat if things go wrong period.
  10. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

    Oct 6, 2014
    You know, it's funny... Bosses use the, "I'll fire you if you don't" excuse...but there are only so many drivers.

    Kinda makes you think of what would happen if we all started to use the n-word.

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  11. Big Jim Knox co.

    Big Jim Knox co. Bobtail Member

    Jun 16, 2015
    Here is the problem with most these arguments....1) does the trailer have provisions for straps( E-track) if so strap it to prevent forward/rear movement,along with blocking on the floor ( in front/behind and beside the wheels} this will be legal as per FMCSA regs
    2) propane tank is not hazmat when attached to vehicle it fuels...turn off valve remove hose and cap outlet if possible, again , considered safe by regs (I haul quite a few lifts with tanks intact,and have been inspected many times with 0 defects...both in load securement and haz mat issues)
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