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<p>[QUOTE="haulit6272, post: 8434837, member: 221210"]I'm reminded of going to the doctor or hospital and having to sign paperwork that says, "We'll be happy to file claims with your insurance company on your behalf, but you are ultimately responsible for anything they refuse to pay for any reason." Every medical provider from here to eternity does it that way, and handing them your insurance card, which they verify before giving you the time of day, doesn't change that.</p><p><br /></p><p>There's this somewhat vague 3-way relationship between the students, the trucking companies, and the private CDL schools which can apparently vary depending on the specific parties involved and what they offer. I haven't contacted any admissions directors at any private CDL schools, but I can't imagine them letting a student begin training without signing papers that say, "Regardless of what a trucking company may have told you, you and only you are ultimately responsible for paying for your tuition if no one else does."</p><p><br /></p><p>I can't sign such papers. I would only get involved in a private CDL school if a trucking company said to me, "We want to hire you and we'll pay for your CDL at such-and-such 3rd party CDL school. They won't make you sign any promissory notes or other loan-type papers, and you'll never be responsible paying tuition. We have a deal set up with them to where they bill us and we pay them."</p><p><br /></p><p>I haven't heard of any trucking companies doing that. They can't risk it with so many variables, not the least of which being the student flakes out and quits school in the middle of the process for whatever reason. So the company may steer you to a private CDL school within 100 miles of where you live, and offer to MAYBE hire you and reimburse your tuition once you're done, with no guarantees. It appears that SDTDT still has you on the hook after graduation if you don't get a job.</p><p><br /></p><p>The cities I listed were chosen cause they are big, spread out, I've either been there or know things about them, and I thought would provide a good representative sample of where companies might have terminals.</p><p>If a company were based in Iowa but could get me on dedicated drop-and-hook runs at night between L.A. and Atlanta, racking up miles like it's nobody's business, I could live anywhere along that route where they have a 'yard.' But I suppose everyone would want a job like that, even if they prefer days only. I was told years ago by a driver in a truck stop that I'd 'make a good truck driver' after I told him I was a night owl. I presume he meant, get to places faster due to less traffic, and therefore make more money. </p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not opposed to a small town, and the cities where company CDL training is taking place are often small towns. I get the tax thing, but as for quality-of-life, I don't define it as big cities with plenty of things to do on my day off. Things like museums, sporting events, and good public schools can't help me. I have no party or social goals to speak of cause I'm a workaholic. I'd be working on SOMETHING even on my days off. I chose Pensacola over Miami for that reason. I know there's a naval base there, and haven't heard of any high crime issues. I knew it had no state income tax, with beaches not that far away. I've been to the RDU area so I know it's a pretty nice place. I chose Vegas for no state income tax, and fun at the sports books if I'm home and can get Sundays off in the fall. Seattle is also no state tax. I could have also included St. Lake City or anyplace in Utah or Idaho with some scenery and clean air.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'll make a note of R.E. West, Schneider, and CFI and try to track when they have company CDL schools, since companies can come and go with their offerings. I know that Schneider and Swift used to have them and quit, but maybe they started up again and just haven't paid to have themselves listed on 'FIND A JOB NOW' website searches. I'm not sure how a student finds the companies who offer training but aren't advertising somewhere unless a person like you tells them about it. Thanks.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="haulit6272, post: 8434837, member: 221210"]I'm reminded of going to the doctor or hospital and having to sign paperwork that says, "We'll be happy to file claims with your insurance company on your behalf, but you are ultimately responsible for anything they refuse to pay for any reason." Every medical provider from here to eternity does it that way, and handing them your insurance card, which they verify before giving you the time of day, doesn't change that. There's this somewhat vague 3-way relationship between the students, the trucking companies, and the private CDL schools which can apparently vary depending on the specific parties involved and what they offer. I haven't contacted any admissions directors at any private CDL schools, but I can't imagine them letting a student begin training without signing papers that say, "Regardless of what a trucking company may have told you, you and only you are ultimately responsible for paying for your tuition if no one else does." I can't sign such papers. I would only get involved in a private CDL school if a trucking company said to me, "We want to hire you and we'll pay for your CDL at such-and-such 3rd party CDL school. They won't make you sign any promissory notes or other loan-type papers, and you'll never be responsible paying tuition. We have a deal set up with them to where they bill us and we pay them." I haven't heard of any trucking companies doing that. They can't risk it with so many variables, not the least of which being the student flakes out and quits school in the middle of the process for whatever reason. So the company may steer you to a private CDL school within 100 miles of where you live, and offer to MAYBE hire you and reimburse your tuition once you're done, with no guarantees. It appears that SDTDT still has you on the hook after graduation if you don't get a job. The cities I listed were chosen cause they are big, spread out, I've either been there or know things about them, and I thought would provide a good representative sample of where companies might have terminals. If a company were based in Iowa but could get me on dedicated drop-and-hook runs at night between L.A. and Atlanta, racking up miles like it's nobody's business, I could live anywhere along that route where they have a 'yard.' But I suppose everyone would want a job like that, even if they prefer days only. I was told years ago by a driver in a truck stop that I'd 'make a good truck driver' after I told him I was a night owl. I presume he meant, get to places faster due to less traffic, and therefore make more money. I'm not opposed to a small town, and the cities where company CDL training is taking place are often small towns. I get the tax thing, but as for quality-of-life, I don't define it as big cities with plenty of things to do on my day off. Things like museums, sporting events, and good public schools can't help me. I have no party or social goals to speak of cause I'm a workaholic. I'd be working on SOMETHING even on my days off. I chose Pensacola over Miami for that reason. I know there's a naval base there, and haven't heard of any high crime issues. I knew it had no state income tax, with beaches not that far away. I've been to the RDU area so I know it's a pretty nice place. I chose Vegas for no state income tax, and fun at the sports books if I'm home and can get Sundays off in the fall. Seattle is also no state tax. I could have also included St. Lake City or anyplace in Utah or Idaho with some scenery and clean air. I'll make a note of R.E. West, Schneider, and CFI and try to track when they have company CDL schools, since companies can come and go with their offerings. I know that Schneider and Swift used to have them and quit, but maybe they started up again and just haven't paid to have themselves listed on 'FIND A JOB NOW' website searches. I'm not sure how a student finds the companies who offer training but aren't advertising somewhere unless a person like you tells them about it. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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