Hotshot rates are horrible

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by Anj, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. Anj

    Anj Light Load Member

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    What's up with the ltl rates lately? I'm consistently seeing 10k-13k loads going for .90 a mile. This seems to be the going rate right now. Who is pulling these??

    Flatbed FTL loads are going in the 4.50s out of California.
     
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  3. Nomadd

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    When a company pays lease operators 82 cents per mile... 90 cents seems like a pay raise
     
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  4. Ryan S2016

    Ryan S2016 Medium Load Member

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    Try running cars for brokers then come say .90 a mile is bad.
     
  5. Anj

    Anj Light Load Member

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    Ryan.... You are under 26k and thus have a lot less overhead.... 50 cents (x 3 cars?) Seems much more doable.
     
  6. Anj

    Anj Light Load Member

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    This can't be right. Guys can't be surviving on 90 cents. Not too mention a lease op isn't running his own numbers with all the overhead. It's just truck , fuel , ins. and maint.
     
  7. Ryan S2016

    Ryan S2016 Medium Load Member

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    .50 cents yeah on a good day if I didnt have the direct clients there is no way to stay with brokers and load boards. The cost of fuel on average is $2.45 a gallon and where I am in the mountains doesnt help. When you factor in maint cost, tire fund, taxes, and all other biz related daily costs that .50 turns into around .20 cents auto brokers arent paying unless your going over 200 miles. While I dont have costs of a semi, I still have the costs of traveling out of state, sleeping at hotels, and gas prices up north where I just came back from were over $3.05 a gallon, like I said with out my direct clients I would not be in the posistion I am in now.
     
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  8. Lite bug

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    Anj, I am going to tell you something you will not believe. Now when I first heard this it was hard for me to believe. Light loads pay better. FBC said this about 8 years ago on a post he made. And I can say that my best paying loads have been under 1,000 lbs. Now they don't come up everyday but they do come. When people know your work and trust you to get the job done they will call. It does take some time. I call them hooptee loads. Hooptee we are making money on this one. Last time was three weeks ago. I had to go 3 hr to pickup 5 hr to deliver $1500 Hooptee for me.
     
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  9. Lite bug

    Lite bug Road Train Member

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    Anj, what part of the country are you working out of ?
     
  10. Anj

    Anj Light Load Member

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    Yes, I do agree with you and fbc on that one. I'm still only seeing 3k-4k loads going for .50 per mile tho. I just assumed fbc was loading 3-4 of those 3k 4k loads as partials.

    Maybe I need to get on the DAT board?

    Working out of the Southwest and west coast. Cal, as previously mentioned FTL is excellent rates right now for flat/step. Making me consider class 8 and pull step.

    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2017
  11. Lite bug

    Lite bug Road Train Member

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    You need to pm FBC and get phone number.
     
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