Hours of service questions and answers

It did.

But when running a chance at split log, you need the 8 hours to be a sleeper, not off duty.

 

Yeah, but I don't run split. Just ain't for me. I've never slept at the dock anyway, other than a cat nap.

 

You are correct.

 

Oh I do love being correct.

 

Actually that change came due to teams and forcing the co-driver to remain in the sleeper to be in an off duty location.

There were many instances of the co-driver getting a log violation (no duty change when sitting up front) even for a small amount of time..like to have a cigarette, or to help the new student driving negotiate the scale crossing.

 

Do we have to order you a new, larger size hat now?

 

New rule - riding in the shotgun seat of a CMV in operation can be called off-duty if it is immediately before or after a period of at least 8 hours in the sleeper. All other time in the shotgun seat of a CMV in operation is on-duty.
395.2 new definition of on-duty time.

 

You are not entirely correct, sir. As of February 2012, they definition of "On Duty" changed.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.2
On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:
(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;
(2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;
(3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;
(4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:
(i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in §397.5 of this subchapter;
(ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or(iii) Up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm
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[TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"]Does not include any time resting in a parked vehicle (also applies to passenger-carrying drivers). In a moving property-carrying CMV, does not include up to 2 hours in passenger seat immediately before or after 8 consecutive hours in sleeper-berth. [/TD]
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My comments were limited to the issue of a CMV in operation, like I said in my post.

Time spent in a parked CMV (not in operation) is also off-duty. Yes.

 

Ok, we are on the same page. I only brought it up as your response appeared to be to kajidono's statement of off duty in the driver's seat.