How new of a truck do I need to haul intermodal?

Discussion in 'Intermodal Trucking Forum' started by OldeSkool, Jun 12, 2020.

  1. Studebaker Hawk

    Studebaker Hawk Road Train Member

    Oct 18, 2010
    NW Indiana
    1964_studebaker_diesel_by_skoshi8-d4lf0fn.jpg Got my eye on a 1964 Studebaker with a 453 Detroit and a 2 speed rear.
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  3. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

    May 25, 2017
    under a shade tree
    she suure is purrty

    i LOVE old, trucks, motorcycles, motor-homes, camping trailers,
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  4. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

    Jan 12, 2011
    Levittown, PA
    Current emissions regulations for the port of NY and NJ is that any truck that is new to the port truck pass system [RFID] must have a 2010 engine. Older trucks are grandfathered but the 96 is dead and the 97's were to die this July BUT the Covid-19 thing has extend it for a short time.

    I can say that most of our port guys have been updating their trucks BUT are passing down the 'grandfathered' stuff to the newer guys. I have a few guys with multiple trucks and their drivers manage to buy one of the older units to go off on their own.

    I only have one port guy with a '99 and it looks like it could sign on to run the coast, you don;t think it is as old as it really is.

    Now if the 2000 to 2005 trucks would turn over, you wouldn't know there were port drivers leased on here.
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  5. Western flyer

    Western flyer Road Train Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    That looks better than 99 percent of the
    Container trucks I see.
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  6. andre

    andre Medium Load Member

    Feb 10, 2008
    Jacksonville, FL
    sounds like an emissions problem..
  7. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

    Jan 12, 2011
    Levittown, PA
    Yup. a 2000 to 2007 [ the last emissions cutoff date] in running condition and grandfathered for port truck pass is worth more than one not in the port mix.

    It is an emissions problem, way back in 2012 the came out with a sticker that was going to control future entry according to the emissions standards and got sued so the made it 'voluntary' to beat the rap making it worthless. Then they sold the marine terminals on the RFID as a security measure and entryway to an appointment system and forced it down the truckers throats. The first round of transponders was FREE and additional/replacement now cost $107.00 ea.

    Even a bigger PITA is the computer glitches as a terminal starts using the system...

    It can let someone in and the the system would update and drop a bunch of transponders into inactive and not let him out.

    With the latest update to a minimum 2010 engine to get into the system, they are demanding a picture of the engine's emissions label showing the 'engine family' every time a unit is updated. Get a new license plate. send a picture...loose it and get another new plate...send a picture...

    The implementation was done without a FAQ or any form of instructions leaving everyone on their own and slowly the Customer Service people slowly helped get us in track but in the meantime some guys learned that they could 'spoof' the system by saying a pre-2007 [at that time] truck had a 2007 engine and that allowed a bunch of older trucks to get around the 'grandfather' status making them start the engine family kick.

    This is going to kick us two ways. first we jumped through these hoops for 7 8 years now while each ship was still able to burn bunker fuel [cheap and dirty] so each ship starting to leave port was polluting more than the port trucks did in a month.

    Now the ships have to start burning ultra low-sulfur fuel so the ship lines will start competing with the truckers by buying up millions of gal of this fuel. The person buying the smaller amounts [truckers who drop to third under the ships and railroads] will pay the most so we got the shaft and can now bend over and wait for the bigger shaft to come.
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  8. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

    Dec 20, 2019
    Marion Texas
    This one was pulling out of the port in Houston last week. It passes 2010 carb requirements. Thats all that matters.
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  9. Zonie

    Zonie Light Load Member

    Sep 14, 2019
    What these guys said about crappy trucks. No fun putting $1M machine into a container and then some $#!+box of a truck pulls up with bald tires and more duct tape than an ACE hardware store, but it is the thing.
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  10. Mudflaps

    Mudflaps Light Load Member

    Oct 1, 2016
  11. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

    Nov 18, 2014
    Canceling cancel culture/CCC
    Same in jersey. You got the crowd whose been doing it forever and has the good connections and then you have the duct tape white Volvo crowd. Then there's Amazon........
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