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<p>[QUOTE="Lepton1, post: 3206778, member: 101602"]<font size="3"><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Times">In our case the "hold up" seems to be the company we are driving for (Landforce). Although they advertise for team drivers they don't seem to be able to keep a team logging miles. I noted in an earlier post (perhaps not on this thread) that my first month had about six days downtime, even though we wanted to keep the wheels turning. The second month logged six days Off Duty as well. Often we would be arriving back near home base on a Saturday, but with a Monday or even Tuesday delivery schedule. Other times we drop a load on a Friday at home, but don't get dispatched until the next Tuesday afternoon. </font></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Times"><br /></font></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Times">Even if we have ongoing long runs, it's difficult to get maximum miles in a 12 hour shift when we split shifts 12 hours per day. Usually we can't make the 11 hour minimum driving time if we have over 1 hour on duty time for fuel stops or other stops. Throw in traffic delays or unexpected slow downs due to weather and there is no way to make up that time if you are only able to log 12 hours on a shift. A solo driver can run extra time in the event of unexpected weather delays, a team driver cannot. Therefore in our practical experience we are getting about 170% of the miles as a solo driver can make.</font></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Times"><br /></font></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Times">When I was making an Excel spreadsheet to compare team versus solo driving I assumed you could get 200% of the miles, and the fixed costs of the truck could be amortized over more miles and result in a pay increase for each driver. This is not true and I would encourage anyone else to assume 170% miles as their benchmark for analysis. At best it seems to be a wash, at worst it will represent a pay decrease for an owner/operator unless they are paying minimum $/mile to the co-driver. For company team drivers, if they are working for a company that is capable of maximizing miles for a team (I'm thinking CRST with almost 100% drop and hook), then it may be possible to come <i>close </i>to doubling the miles.</font></span></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lepton1, post: 3206778, member: 101602"][SIZE=3][COLOR=#222222][FONT=Times]In our case the "hold up" seems to be the company we are driving for (Landforce). Although they advertise for team drivers they don't seem to be able to keep a team logging miles. I noted in an earlier post (perhaps not on this thread) that my first month had about six days downtime, even though we wanted to keep the wheels turning. The second month logged six days Off Duty as well. Often we would be arriving back near home base on a Saturday, but with a Monday or even Tuesday delivery schedule. Other times we drop a load on a Friday at home, but don't get dispatched until the next Tuesday afternoon. Even if we have ongoing long runs, it's difficult to get maximum miles in a 12 hour shift when we split shifts 12 hours per day. Usually we can't make the 11 hour minimum driving time if we have over 1 hour on duty time for fuel stops or other stops. Throw in traffic delays or unexpected slow downs due to weather and there is no way to make up that time if you are only able to log 12 hours on a shift. A solo driver can run extra time in the event of unexpected weather delays, a team driver cannot. Therefore in our practical experience we are getting about 170% of the miles as a solo driver can make. When I was making an Excel spreadsheet to compare team versus solo driving I assumed you could get 200% of the miles, and the fixed costs of the truck could be amortized over more miles and result in a pay increase for each driver. This is not true and I would encourage anyone else to assume 170% miles as their benchmark for analysis. At best it seems to be a wash, at worst it will represent a pay decrease for an owner/operator unless they are paying minimum $/mile to the co-driver. For company team drivers, if they are working for a company that is capable of maximizing miles for a team (I'm thinking CRST with almost 100% drop and hook), then it may be possible to come [I]close [/I]to doubling the miles.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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