HP broke seal, lied on report saying seal was missing Load refused

Discussion in 'Refrigerated Trucking Forum' started by JJN, May 6, 2019.

  1. Intothesunset

    Intothesunset Road Train Member

    Apr 15, 2019
    Officer should have signed the bills for breaking the seal. And the carrier should have called the broker or customer.
    That's my thoughts.
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  3. REO6205

    REO6205 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    Feb 15, 2014
    Why did the officer break the seal?
  4. Truckingupchick

    Truckingupchick Bobtail Member

    May 6, 2019
    He has to document he broke the seal. Call his superior officer.tell them you want his dash cam footage and notes and call log.florida gives you an additional paper.( If you own the truck. You then file a claim against the state.) He won't throw away his career if you push it. I hope you sent somebody a message, a Qualcomm or fb post documenting the offense. Sorry that happened to you. They are not God. Stand your ground
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  5. Truckingupchick

    Truckingupchick Bobtail Member

    May 6, 2019
    I've had 3 new seals this year, and 4 in the past.its common. It's also stamped Arizona etc
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  6. JJN

    JJN Bobtail Member

    May 6, 2019
    Trooper wanted me to break it, but I clearly said, "I don't want to break the seal; If you need to search my trailer you're going to have to break it yourseIf"; So he did. This was after he called for a drug dog, who walked around my rig led by his Handler , as I watched, I saw no reaction from the dog, yet the Handler waived the trooper over and reported that the dog "alerted"at the drivers side door and at the back of the trailer.
    NOW there was his probable cause to search. By the way I never told him that he could NOT search my rig.
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  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

    Mar 5, 2016
    White County, Arkansas
    The last time we had seal issues was with a flower load out of Phoenix West. Illinois police pawed through the whole thing.

    I resealed it. logs and papers and qualcomm etc. Chicago took those flowers without complaint.

    That particular load was a fubar because we had to run to Rolla MO through the woods to take it away from a trainer and his student who dawdled too long in AZ and NM at the Casinos etc. The load was late. And if it was not there in Chicago by midnight the account would have been lost.

    The search took a hour of our time, time we did not have. Nothing was found. But the load was in Chicago before midnight and that was what mattered in the end.
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  8. Balakov100

    Balakov100 Road Train Member

    May 10, 2012
    Temple, TX

    I had a L2 in IA last year.
    DOT Officer broke the seal and had no problem documenting it...
    No drug dog even... He just wanted to look inside.
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  9. Always take a picture or video with your phone. Not to mention this is why we padlock a trailer.

    Or the good ol' saying:
    " I want to see a supervisor"
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  10. JPenn

    JPenn Road Train Member

    Mar 5, 2008
    Southern Tier NY
    Bolt seals will prevent trivial random nonsense like this. If an officer ACTUALLY needs to get in the trailer, they'll make it happen, but a bolt seal can't just be yanked off on a whim.
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  11. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

    Apr 12, 2016
    They - officers - typically reseal it with their own seals too. If that happened to me and he refused to reseal it or sign for it, I would call his captain and also a broker then reseal it with my own. No way, I would advance without a seal. At the minimum, it is better to have a mismatched seal from not having one at all.
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