I thought Kenworth was the world's best???

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by striker, Jun 26, 2020.

  1. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    My company is in the process, over the next couple years, of replacing our Mack's with KW's. One thing I have said many times is how boring the T680 is, particularly the interior, last week after the new sleeper arrived, I realized what I meant, miles upon miles of boring grey/black plastic. I know it's only a sticker, but at least the fake wood trim in my Mack gives the interior more character, makes it feel nicer. Apparently, KW only offers grey/black plastic as a dash option, unless you but a W9 or W900.

    Then there's the build quality, the bolts attaching the fairings to the cab, half the bolts have a stainless washer, half the bolts have a zinc washer. We called the salesman, over the phone you can visualize him shrugging his shoulders. The adaptor KW sent for us to install with our ELD's is the wrong one for the truck. Then comes the worst, the drivers door, when it's closed, at the top it's flush with the body, about 1/4 the way down, either the door or the cab has a problem, the door does not fit flush, nor is it a tight fit. At the top, the gap is roughly 1/8 inch, at the bottom, the gap is more than 1/2 inch, you can see the rubber moulding and trim. They said there is no adjustment, but they are willing to look at it.

    As my boss was applying the company stickers, he also noticed a bunch yellow grease pen marks all over the truck, like they were inspecting it. Inspecting it for what?
     
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  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Sucks to hear quality is going down. Gotta slap those robots building the new cabs. The old B cab seems to be a superior cab IMO. Even my 40 year old A cab has held up well after 30 years of abuse and no wonky gaps and such.
     
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  4. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    if u think the t680 is boring then i hope ya dont look inside a pete
     
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  5. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    That would be the boring fleet trucks for you, slap them together as fast as possible and kick them out the door. Would not be surprised if the W9s were the same way anymore, as nobody seems to keep their truck for 1.5 million miles anymore.
     
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  6. Kshaw0960

    Kshaw0960 Heavy Load Member

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    I drove a ‘96 w900 for a year and switched between a cascadia and a t680 a few times. It’s actually embarrassing how much worse a t680 is compared to a cascadia in just about every way. I’m not even talking about the newer cascadias. Heck, just the fuel pedal being too far to the left on the t680 was killing me.
     
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  7. bigdad7

    bigdad7 Road Train Member

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    I have an 09 t660 and it is at 1.3 ...held up quite well .....but the comfort and amenities in my cascadias surprised me , the Xtra insulation package paired with the newer parksmart not too shabby either. I am still working through the steering/ handling on a few of them compared to my kw, but in all fairness I spent years on the kw getting it there
     
  8. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    PACCAR spent decades building a reputation for quality trucks. And killed that reputation in just a few short years.
     
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  9. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    It's not just PACCAR, every Mack we've bought in the last 15 yrs the build quality seemed to be going down, the Anthem's I test drove in '18 had decent build quality, decent fit/finish

    Prior to ordering the first T680 a year ago, everyone brought a daycab or small sleeper by for us to look at. KW brought over a 70' T680, O/O spec, gutless and boring, the huge sleeper was the only upside. None of us liked the Pete daycab, cramped, very blah. Honestly, the only one we looked at, that, as a driver I liked was the VNR 400 and VNR 640

    My Mack has 505K on it, one rattle that started about 100K ago and it's intermittent, but these new trucks all have rattles, the first sleeper we bought last year, at 35K had more rattles than the Mack at 500K, the three we got last year, all have had fuel tank weld failures near the hoses, all have had electrical gremlins. So far, the only upside to them is better MPG.
     
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  10. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

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    When Paccar introduced their european designed cab years ago I knew it was the end of commonsense and quality for them. They jumped on the 3 year service and throw away bandwagon that Diamler invented with Freightliner.
     
  11. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    After reading all this, I guess I'm thankful for my Freightliner with lock washers. (Western Star 4900)

    I love the interior, there's a small squeak somewhere under the dash, but I don't really notice it too much.

    We had a new 389 day cab up to try out, nobody wanted it. Just too cramped inside for what we do. Running a day cab, I carry rain suits, muck boots, a small tool bag, and other odds and ends. The Star has enough room. The Pete didn't.

    It's a shame that Kenworth has been ruined by the one cab fits all mentality.
     
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