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Increase my gvw?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Mikesuburban1, Dec 26, 2019.

  1. Dec 26, 2019 #1
    Mikesuburban1

    Mikesuburban1 Bobtail Member

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    I have a tri axle flatbed
    . When we registered the truck they gave us a 57k gvw. We haul pavers a 57k gvw isn't much to work with. I see dump trucks with 72k gvw with the same wheelbase as me! Why is this? Can someone help me understand? Also I noticed on the title and registration it says truck type refg not flatbed and unladen weight is 32k but on the scale it's only 26k. Truck is registered in NY I know nothing about this so any info is much appreciated
     
    Mikesuburban1, Dec 26, 2019
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  3. Dec 26, 2019 #2
    Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    You get a NYS blanket overweight permit. Idk triaxle I think ny stops at 72k for non construction material(?) on a straight truck, you have to have a steerable on any lift axle; all tires, axles and suspension parts have to be rated accordingly. Got to go to Albany for it.
     
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  4. Dec 26, 2019 #3
    Mikesuburban1

    Mikesuburban1 Bobtail Member

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    My truck was spec'd heavy so its built for weight. I do most of my paver pick ups in NJ so does the permit still apply?
     
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  5. Dec 26, 2019 #4
    MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Is there a special registration for dump trucks in NY?
     
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  7. Dec 26, 2019 #5
    Ridgeline

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    The bridge laws are effecting the gvw, the axle ratings for all axles are not used as an aggregate for the total gross capacity, there is a formula used to determine the new gross capacity when axles are added based on wheel base and placement of the axles to meet the bridge law requirements.

    I would contact a dealer to find out more.
     
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  8. Dec 28, 2019 #6
    brian991219

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    No, the R permit is for New York only. New Jersey is going to restrict you to bridge laws which depend on the overall axle spacing. Off the top of my head 64,500 is about the max you can get in NJ and that is with a long truck, 30+ feet from center of steer axle to center of rear most drive axle. Then there is the inner bridge spacing to consider as well.

    Don't hold me to my number above, it is late and I am tired. Didn't look anything up just going by memory.
     
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