Independent truckers see end of the road

Discussion in 'Truckers Strike Forum' started by Omega, Mar 2, 2008.

  1. Omega

    Omega Light Load Member

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    Who thinks brokers should be able to scam drivers like that?

    Real estate brokers have limits, why shouldn't trucking brokers?

    My boyfriend actually has his brokers license, we just haven't had time to get anything started with shippers. It will take time. Maybe that's the way around the broker scam.

    If I was a broker, I couldn't ethically do to a driver what some (or many) of them are doing. I'm like you, honesty and integrity. You'd have to be a real scum, like a used car salesmen to take 50% or more. Since we know scum exists, then scum needs to be regulated.
     
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  3. Eskimo6804

    Eskimo6804 Heavy Load Member

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    Because a salesman(broker) is good at what he does and gets a shipper to pay an excellent rate and he reaps the rewards of his hard work, skill, and experience, that means he is automatically scum? I think your OPINION on this matter is short sighted at best.

    The broker didn't hold a gun to your head and make you haul it for that rate. Nobody made you use brokers. Nobody made you get authority or even drive a truck for a living.

    If your business model consists of trolling load boards and calling brokers for over 50% of your frieght, then the problem with this is YOU. Your business model is broken.

    The way I see it is you can do two things. First you can get off of your butt and go find your own customers thus eliminating your little problem(cheap brokers). Second, you can keep hauling the cheap broker frieght and continue whining about how you want our country to turn into a socialist economy.

    I happen to LOVE capitalism and our free market economy. I also happen to love when the economy turns south and forces incompetent trucking companies out of business. It just means more money in my pocket and higher rates when the dust settles, at least for a little while until other incompetent people decide they can make money running trucks and drive rates back down again.
     
  4. Omega

    Omega Light Load Member

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    The brokers are driving the industry into the ground. Real estate brokers are regulated, credit card companies have legal limits as to what percentage they can charge, home mortgage interest rates have legal limits, so should freight brokers. If not, people lose their homes and go into bankruptcy. When lots of Americans go bankrupt and lose their businesses it affects the entire economy and that includes you. This is going to hurt the US economy. That concerns everyone. There are enough new drivers that keep re-entering the trucking industry to keep these greedy brokers gouging down freight rates. I'm sure you have heard the news that the next depression is about to happen?

    Our free capitalistic economy is going down the toilet right now. So how's the free economy working lately?

    So do you also like paying $3.50 a gallon for fuel and you have no problem with the free economy to keep letting the price of fuel go up? You don't want the government to step in when it goes up to $5.00 a gallon? That's just fine with you?

    A free economy needs some regulation or the entire economy suffers.

    Oh but I agree, we will be bypassing the brokers. As far as brokers goes, I do think there is a difference between being good at what you do and being unethical.
     
  5. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    if you don't figure out how to not let those brokers take advantage of you then it's you driving our rates down. I'm glad you have the whole industry figured out in your two month exp. Guess we've just been spinning our wheels for the last 20 years.
     
  6. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    Why not do what most folks do and negotiate in a fuel surcharge, and handle the cost of fuel that way. Most companies and owners that do so are paying about 1.25 per gallon for their fuel, with all the rest of the cost compensated for by the fuel surcharge.

    Maybe we need to redefine the term Free Economy, since if the economy is free, then it doesn't need regulation.
     
  7. Eskimo6804

    Eskimo6804 Heavy Load Member

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    I love paying $3.50 per gallon for fuel and I honestly wish it would go to $10.00 a gallon. The higher fuel goes, the more money I make. The fuel surcharge that I have negotiated with MY customers is based on 6.0 mpg. Since my fleetwide average mpg is well over 7 mpg, I make profit on the margin.

    And no, the free market system does not need to be regulated. It works perfectly. Supply and demand and other simple economic theories do a great job of weeding out the inefficient businesses and the incompetent business owners.

    You know what...If you REALLY want socialism, then why don't you move to a communist country?
     
  8. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    Yeah, a lot of these folks don't realize that the higher priced the fuel is, the better off the fuel surcharge makes it. Ours at a lot of our customers is based on a percentage, and if you figure it at a typical 17%, that works out to well over 60 cents per mile based on our rates. Some of the customers pay a higher percentage, some pay a set number on a per mile basis. I saw one load a few months back, the load ran 121 miles and the FSC was a straight 125.00. We typically get around 6 mpg since our trailers pull hard, but on that particular load the truck used about 21 gallons of fuel at about 2.50 per gallon at the time. So the truck used less that 53 dollars worth of fuel and recovered 125 on the fuel surcharge alone.

    This isn;t something new, it;'s something that a lot of these folks should have been doing years ago, and now they want to government to make up for the fact that they fell behind in the race.
     
  9. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    No need to go that far. There are several candidates running in the current election that would be more than happy to bring socialism right to yor doorstep. LOL!!
     
  10. Omega

    Omega Light Load Member

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    Did anybody even read the USA Today article I posted in the beginning of the thread? These are experienced drivers with longstanding family businesses whom are going out of business. People are going out of business because fuel has doubled and pay has not. They are saying it is the brokers and the cost of fuel. I'm not saying this, they are. They also organized a strike. Recently the writers guild organized a strike and the demands were met. I'm not seeing any such cohesion with truckers. Our economy is going into a major depression.

    Thank you for the info about how to deal with high fuel prices and brokers BTW. I just assumed that truckers on this forum would be concered about the problems many truckers are facing.
     
  11. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Gooberment over regulation, taxes and meddling with the energy sector has gotten us a lot of the problems we have today in fuel pricing. More meddling and price caps etc are not going to help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact they'll make it worse.
     
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