Is Biden targetting small businesses, truckers & farmers, with nitrogen oxide standards ???

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  1. Tarh331_Dad

    Tarh331_Dad Bobtail Member

    Mar 29, 2020
    Truckers challenge Biden administration's new emission rules: Matter of ‘life and death’

    Is Biden targeting white republicans' small businesses the same way Stalin targeted the Kulaks during the holodomor? Biden is not only targeting small business truckers, he is also targeting family farms

    Andrew John of the John N John Trucking Company warned that the costs associated with the nitrogen oxide standards could kill many mom-and-pop trucking businesses. "They go out of business," John said on "Varney & Co" last month. "They go out of business, and we all know how important small businesses are to the economy."

    John stressed that the standards could cost thousands of dollars per vehicle but that there would also be other costs associated with the new technology, maintenance, and operations that many small businesses can't afford. The latest emissions rules continue to put pressure on small businesses with little cost incentives or government aid. Spencer feared these rules could put truckers out of business..."
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  3. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

    Dec 18, 2011
    Should this be moved to the political section?
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  4. d o g

    d o g Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    Ideally, members could discuss the content of the articles and how it impacts truckers without getting into the bickering that often forces us to move stuff to the Politics Forum where all reasonable discussion essentially ends because it's not moderated in there. I get that one of the titles is a bit inflammatory, but let's try to keep it on track here and see how long we can go with it.
  5. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

    Mar 4, 2015
    How is another round of emission standards going to affect anyone any more or less than any previous standards? I’ve seen nothing that says any older trucks won’t be able to be registered like California has done with pre-2010 trucks so I guess the solution would be if you don’t want new trucks or can’t afford them then simply don’t buy them. There’s nothing stopping anyone from doing a large buy in 2026 like what everyone did back in 2003 and 2007.
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  6. smokey12

    smokey12 Road Train Member

    May 30, 2012
    Hopefully all this nonsense will be done away with in two years..just because it's proposed and passed doesn't mean it's permanent. Absolute morons running us into the ground for another 20 months.. hopefully that's all..
  7. Numb

    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

    Jan 30, 2012
    Charlotte, N.Carolina
  8. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    New regulations and laws never, or only very rarely, get removed. Doesn't matter who wrote them or who's in power nor whatever BS any of them allegedly stands for either. There's an entire system set up in such a way that makes it like that.
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  9. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

    Apr 26, 2013
    Gettin' down westbound
    I would highly reccomend the book. "The war on small business" by carol Roth..really shines a light of whats been going on for 40+ years.. It does not matter the administration that is in office.. Small business has been getting destroyed across all industries for a long time.
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  10. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

    Sep 16, 2016
    Honestly it doesnt suprise me. There is just too much money to be had in garbage like this. It doesnt matter if the tech is reiable or not just that they can force people to pay for it and line pockets regardless of political side. But like anything else, the good small businesses will find ways around the law for now the bad or failing ones will die off and things will get just a little worse for all the rest right up until we cant.

    What i do see crap like this forceing is a lot of changes to how freight gets charged. It will be slow at first and its hard to say exactly what happens long term but the minimum is that people pass these costs onto the customers and make small business less competitive with megas. But for now we have old iron still on the road and there ARE ways to keep this tech moving down the road making money. Hell its going to make conversions to solutions like edisons diesel electric or even cats new diesel electric stuff far more popular as a stop gap between old iron and new garbage.

    Sadly i dont see the EPA and government overreach stopping any time soon. Doesnt matter if its biden or trump or desantis or JFK or whoeever the hell in change. To many pockets to line to do away with this.
  11. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

    Sep 18, 2009
    Memphis, TN
    I don't think any administration singles out small businesses per se. In this case they are only following science and trying to improve pollution and global warming. I don't see anything wrong with trying to clean things up if you got the ability to. The small businesses that feel threatened are either the ones that have an inability or unwillingness to adjust or evolve, or the ones that probably have no business working for themselves in the first place. Things have constantly evolved. The trucking industry has evolved over and over again and folks still find a way to have their small businesses.
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