Is it true CDL examiners at DMV don't have a CDL themselves?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by NY2001, Jun 19, 2022.

  1. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    For some state's is a requirement for the state people to have a CDL, but certainly not every state. I would state personally that this is why I'd prefer to go through a third party tester and their examiners. Third party examiners (I'm 99% sure) have to have a CDL. The fact is that CDL holders are just more realistic where as the state examiners are going of 100% paper /technical perfections. I am of course an old fart and was doing the third party examiner gig before MOST trucks were automatics so that should make the tests easier as the effects of having to learn shift and being really new at it effects EVERYTHING else on the test. I have tested several people who started out fine, missed a couple of shifts and just mentally collapsed and failed everything.
     
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  3. Antinomian

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    The problem with that is third party examiners in the past have tended to be trucking company or trucking school employees. In both cases there is a strong incentive for lax testing standards.
     
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  4. NY2001

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    From my experience, when I did the in-cab inspection with a DMV examiner, she failed me because I was taught that for the first part of the air brakes test, the Air Leaks test, I put my foot on the brake and pushed the air brake in to wait 1 full minute and the DMV Karen told me I was supposed to not put my foot on the brakes until the minute passes and I haven't lost more than 3 inches per square inch and I went on YouTube to see where I went wrong almost every video shows what I did. The problem is DMV examiners take the smallest things too harshly, and they aren't that nice (which makes you even more nervous).

    I did the same with the third-party examiner and he told me I did everything correctly and the DMV examiner shouldn't have failed me. NY does not allow third parties so I simply went to NJ to get around New York's stupid rule that only the DMV can administer it, aka people without a CDL and have an attitude. I did what this guy had done:
     
  5. NY2001

    NY2001 Light Load Member

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    I did not know that. Thanks.
     
  6. NY2001

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    Third-party examiners who are biased or help people during the exam risk having their license to give the tests pulled and everyone who got the CDL from them may have to take the test again. The examiner can even be prosecuted (if I'm not wrong). I don't think that's a risk they're willing to take. Third-party examiners help people, including the DMV by:
    • Opening new testing sites
    • Speed up appointments (In NY, where only the DMV can administer the test, you can expect to wait nearly 1 month for the next available appointment because the DMV has too many people to be tested).
    • Have actual CDL-holders conduct the tests. They can better explain your mistakes and if you failed, what you need to practice on.
     
  7. Antinomian

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    And yet that is exactly what happened at the Swift Memphis terminal back in 2008. Everyone who got their CDL there over a period of several years had it canceled and had to go retake the test. See Swift Academy Licenses Suspended.
     
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  8. tscottme

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    The body that investigates airplane crashes, the NTSB or National Transportation Safety Board, doesn't require their board members to have a pilot license. In fact since Biden is in office the only member on the board of the NTSB to have more than a passenger car license only has a moped license/endorsement. No pilots on the board. It'll be fine.
     
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  9. Dennixx

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    Similar to the secretary of transportation..
    Quota time.
     
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  10. Ridgeline

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    You guys know that a lot of cops who pull trucks over don’t have a cdl?

    you don’t need one to be an examiner, it doesn’t make you a better examiner or more intelligent because a cdl is very easy to get in the first place.
     
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  11. NY2001

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    It actually does because many DMV examiners fail people for dumb reasons, also it makes no sense if the person who is testing you has never driven the truck before. If it's very easy, then why not get one for themselves? Police officers do not issue CDLs.
     
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