Is trucking for me?

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by Number21, Nov 25, 2014.

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  1. Number21

    Number21 Bobtail Member

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    Right. All these other guys are making profit (however small it may be) but I won't be able to even break even if I consider my truck to be free? Or are you trying to say that the thousands of people who deliver RVs this way must be enslaved to their companies and loosing money but just keep doing it anyway?

    Talk about stupid advice...:roll:



    Given the silence I'll assume nobody can do that. By all means, prove me wrong. I dare you!
     
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    Number21 Bobtail Member

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    Here are some more numbers. Are any of these wrong? They are heavily weighted in favor of the class 8 truck, it still fails. Even if insurance was significantly cheaper it would cost more to run. This does not include the cost of a second vehicle needed with the class 8 truck.

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    You don't have to be a truck driver to create a spreadsheet. :roll:
     
  4. Ellijay

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    The silence is because you already know all the answers to your own questions and we are now just watching you to talk to your self.
     
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    ramblingman Road Train Member

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    Your #'s are way off.

    -You'll never get a light duty truck to run to a 1/2 million miles if you have a load behind it the whole time. 300k would be a safer bet on the Light duty. A HD you can get to a million easy, but in both cases your pretty much talking about new trucks or almost new trucks. For a One ton figure 30-40k and 80k-120k for a Class 8.

    -Their is so much more to maintenance than tires,brakes,oil and fuel. Trying to break that down and illustrate it so simplistically is very misleading. Your completely ignoring Turbos,injection pumps,air lines,coolant lines,oil lines,all kinds of lines,air bags,u-joints,differential fluid,transmission fluid,air filters just to name a couple things off the top of my head.

    -Drive tires on a Class 8 Truck should get you 300k on the drives easy and 200k on the steers if things go moderately well. Tires for a one ton on the other hand especially if your towing the whole time are going to be more like 50k tires and their is no way in heck that your going to be using the same tires for a Class 8 Tractor as you would on a one ton truck. A fairly normal lo-pro drive tire on a 22.5 rim is about 42" tall. Good luck fitting that on a one ton or getting the hub to take that kind of stress.

    -Your total cost per mile calculated via this spreadsheet are completely worthless for anything, but learning from your mistakes and creating a better spreadsheet. A lot of this you will only learn from experience. Like all industries you can't just walk in and start counting beans with any reasonable expectation to get something productive done.

    Hope that didn't come across too harsh. Good luck.
     
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    BS! There are plenty of one ton trucks with 500,000 to 1,000,000 miles. Quite frequently the used hot shot trucks on ebay with 600,000 or more miles still sell for quite a lot of money. There are many people on this forum that claim many more miles than that.

    Right, and it all cost more in a bigger truck...

    Is the maintenance on any of those items cheaper in a big truck than a one ton? I didn't include EVERYTHING because it was obvious that it all cost more.

    More BS! If your tires only last 50k you are doing something VERY wrong! You very much can use the same tires. (It's called a "big wheel kit" for the one ton) The same tires, whatever they cost, will last longer on the one ton than the bigger truck, because the bigger truck weighs significantly more. As for stress, people like to put giant lifts and tires on one tons and go mud bogging, it's another thing they were designed to handle. Diesel trucks are like cars for rich people and they all love the big wheels and tires.

    Of course, you can still use smaller size tires that fit the one ton and cost much less, also.

    Numbers aren't exact but you will never, ever, ever get to a point where the big rig cost less per mile. Don't be stupid. :roll: Even if it did I don't care! I never asked about getting a big rig...and I have no intentions of ever getting one. There are people in the world who deliver things with a one ton truck and make a profit doing it, this is a fact.


    One more time:
    If anybody can provide some real numbers that show a bigger truck costing less per mile, I would love to see it! If my numbers are so wrong post your own! Also, if anybody can show me one person that uses a class 8 truck to deliver single camping trailers I would love to see that too! It doesn't happen!

    Again, I've actually talked to somebody who does this in person with ton of paid miles on his one ton. His numbers don't agree with yours. Has anybody here actually delivered RVs with a one ton in real life?
     
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    I never asked any questions about cost per mile. I already have that figured out just fine. You have added nothing of value to this discussion, you need to stop replying here unless you have something useful to add.
     
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    ............
     
  9. Ellijay

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    Lmao. I need to huh. I see a lot of things you need as well.
     
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    Let's wrap this one up.
     
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