Isn't securement in a dry van supposed to be the same as a flatbed?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Metalicious, May 9, 2021.

  1. Metalicious

    Metalicious Light Load Member

    Sep 27, 2015
    I am just curious. I have done flatbed, probably half of my career in driving. However I now work for a company that is in the LTL flavor of the business who likes to haul equipment that is flatbed worthy in dry vans. But, isn't the equipment being transported supposed to be secured by the same means, as far as working load limit of securement, points of contact, etc? I have attached a couple pics for your review fellow drivers. I am seriously thinking about telling them to kiss my brown eye next time they ask, or expect me to transport anything tied down in this manner. FYI, this was loaded before I even got there so I didn't know it was tied down like this until I got to that delivery specifically. Note, not a #### thing is touching that machine at all. Nothing to stop it from going forward, backward, or side to side. miniex1.jpg miniex2.jpg
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  3. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

    Mar 19, 2014
    Newport, Ar
    You can still get unsecured load ticket, your just not advertising it to the world when you pull into scales, but, your straps are limited to where you can attach, but it can be done, and we expect load securement, what about the children?
  4. Metalicious

    Metalicious Light Load Member

    Sep 27, 2015
    Oh I know I could get unsecured load ticket. Just can't believe they really think this is okay. The load bar isn't securing a #### thing. If my memory serves me correctly, the load bar was even only there because of tall palletized freight that was in front of it, to keep it from falling forward towards the machine in the picture. Nail the breaks and that machine will be in the cab with you. They don't even give us enough load bars or straps, one load bar and maybe two straps.
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  5. Trucker K

    Trucker K Light Load Member

    Sep 21, 2019
    At work last week I saw a couple bent load bars and it was from a load shifting that included a few 1800 lbs skids. Any type of momentum from something weighing over 2000 lbs can start bending things once it rocks back n" forth. For extra security I would of including 2 straps by cross strapping over the mni back hoe loader. I'm not sure the weight but adding extra security doesn't hurt it only hurts if there isn't enough security for the load.
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  6. Metalicious

    Metalicious Light Load Member

    Sep 27, 2015
    I agree. The issue is getting the straps to do so. Sometimes we have straps sometimes we don't. Company has stupid policies nobody can comply with, given the amount of securement we are so graciously provided. Such as "no freight can be blocked or braced by using other freight to do so". Okay. How in God's name are we supposed to secure an entire load of freight, with a single bar, and maybe two straps? On a flatbed, the picture above, would require four points of contact to the base of the machine, and one strap or chain across the boom. Surely that isn't all "no biggie" in a dry van to just not do. I would say my job has some pretty impossible expectations.
  7. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

    Jun 26, 2020
    South Texas
    This is why you see coils in the sleeper after a dry van tried to stop. Because there's nothing holding it in place except gravity. Works great until inertia comes into play.
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  8. Mototom

    Mototom Heavy Load Member

    May 7, 2019
    Hauled a few coils on pallets. Was pissed when I realized there was no way to get a strap on any of it.
    took my paslode and nailed some boards down then to show my displeasure nailed the pallets down too.
  9. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

    Apr 9, 2009
    Humboldt, Sk
    Those load bars are not designed for strength front to back, they are designed for a vertical load.
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  10. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

    Jun 13, 2011
    Use to haul lumber in dry vans. No securment what so ever. Those van walls will hold it in, right.
  11. Shawn2130

    Shawn2130 Heavy Load Member

    Sep 20, 2015
    Sounds like every van trailer should be built like a sea can in order to keep stuff properly contained. Rails along the floor and walls to secure odd shaped things or heavy objects.

    That is a small excavator. Maybe around 6,000 lbs or so. Our 5 ton is quite a bit bigger.

    I see the tracks are up against the wall.

    On rubber tracks, it’s pretty much like any skid load.

    I have seen some questionable things hauled in van trailers even when I was a teenager.

    Back when I was a teenager I’ve seen a 1949 Model R diesel tractor at the front of a van trailer. That’s a 5 plus ton tractor on wheels.

    Only the parking brake kept it from moving. :eek:

    I’ve heard he’s only driving an hour away to his new home with his tractor but usually I see farm or construction equipment tied down.
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