Kevin Rutherfrauds $200000 Signature glider truck has complete engine failure!!!

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  1. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    I have no problem going to those black hole areas. But I go in with a rate that more than covers my bounce back out.
     
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  3. mtoo

    mtoo Road Train Member

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    I have no problem bouncing. I won't take 47,000 with 8ft tarp cheap. But I will take 7,000 4ft tall no tarp fairly cheap.
     
  4. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Do you see these responses, Mr Mechanic? The problem with going to a dead zone is that the freight there is EXTREMELY cheap. Most of us would bounce out of a dead zone, before we pull a cheap and heavy. A travel agent will try to sell you on the load by saying it "helps pay for fuel." A travel agent gets paid whether or not you make money on the load or not, so of course, they'd rather you pull a cheap load than bounce. But you, the driver, are doing all the work. Why would you pull a load where a desk jockey makes money on the load, but you, the person paying all the expenses and doing all the work get zilch? That's like having a pimp. Youre the person getting screwed, and someone else is taking the profits. Repugnant.

    Had a lease purchase driver that pulled a load for a good rate out of Michigan to Ft McKay Alberta. Our cutoff time to send in paperwork to get paid is Sunday at 2200. This driver pulled this load on a Tuesday. He stopped by the house in Illinois. I told him to deliver, then go home. He tells me how the receiver is open 24-7. He delivers on Sunday and scans his paperwork in. He will get a decent check come Thursday. I told him that I would have been back in the States before my travel agent got in Monday. He didn't want to bounce back, and decided to wait for a load.

    Monday afternoon, he gets a load, picking up in Saskatoon,SK going to Greenville,SC. Don't know how much it weighed, but it was going to Greenville,SC FOR $.90/mile all in. I laughed out loud. He picks this load up that Tuesday, but doesn't deliver until the following Monday.

    I too will take a load to a deadzone. But Mr Spyder stated, that rate has to be enough to get in, get and go all the way back into my freight lane, and still line my pockets. Now, Im checking the boards and looking for a load out BEFORE I get there. But ifall I see is garbage, as soon as my wagon is empty, I'm bouncing. Why?

    Time.

    What happens to alot of drivers is they get to a dead zone and sit for 3-4 days, picking through garbage loads for less than a buck a mile, then pull a $1.30 a mile load out because theyre tired of sitting. Which is better...to pull a $1/mile load on Monday, or sit til Thursday and pull that same load at $2?
     
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  5. magoo68

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    Deadhead back to 5/ mile load if you find something that fits take it .. The more loaded at 5000 lb and empty you get at 2.50 avg and high fuel mpg the better you are
     
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  6. rollin coal

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    Funny how this old thread got derailed. I always said there's no such thing as a bad area. See experts on social media kissing up to brokers who are posting loads with lousy rates then get upset if it gets some smh's. They'll say "that's a good rate but it goes to a bad area". If the rate is any good there is no "but". I don't care if you haul a 50 cpm back haul or deadhead 750 miles for a $2.25 backhaul but just go and do it as soon as you get empty. Don't sit there crying about cheap freight cause you didn't get enough of a rate going in. It's called a lesson. Don't let it happen again.
     
  7. not4hire

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    When I was running out of Edmonton, within the last five years, and hauling to locations north of Fort Nelson or out to Kitimat/Prince Rupert, it was more financially advantageous to come back empty than to pick up a load of lumber in Fort St John or Smithers or Burns Lake, etc., destined for Edmonton. Some of the lumber loads paid about $1,800, but by time you factor in the time spent loading, tarping (sometimes), unloading (typically by appointment only), additional fuel burn, additional wear-and-tear, etc., and the fact that you're now tied up and can't take another high-paying load, it is a money-losing proposition. So that's 1,200-1,500 km of deadheading per trip that puts you further ahead financially than running loaded. Of course that only works if you're being properly paid to begin with. If your day-to-day freight is cheap then it's a different proposition altogether.
     
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  8. AModelCat

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    Kind of funny you mention Fort MacKay. I live 30 minutes South of there. Lots of high dollar loads head up here but not many going back south.

    Thanks for the responses. My only experience around the trucking industry is logging/construction so I'm not all that familiar with how things work with OTR.
     
  9. Oldman49

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    Mechanic,(old red,,been wrenching for 30 yrs ) bangs in a liner with an old 2x4 ,,,"that's good enough" ! Starrett ? Who's that ?
     
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  10. jammer910Z

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    That's what I was thinking.
     
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  11. Bigray

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    For me it's Pride. I have to look myself in the mirror in the morning and I don't want to be talking myself into why I took a cheap load,
     
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