Landstar is getting cheap.

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by nightgunner, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. p608

    p608 Road Train Member

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    Working cheap
     
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  3. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    That's for sure.
     
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  4. PPNLE

    PPNLE Road Train Member

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    Yeah. There's a reason that we have to make sure we're actually getting Landstar O/O when we're dealing with Landstar. It's #### like this. Their newer agents *love* to double broker. It's tiresome, especially when you wind up getting a phone call from one of your regulars along the lines of, "Hey man, I saw you had this posted earlier... Landstar's offering it at a lower rate right now."

    That always leads me to have a super-irritating conversation, and wastes my time.
     
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  5. boredsocial

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    I would definitely be less of a dick about telling Landstar I won't work with them... if I hadn't told them 5 times a week for almost 3 years. At a certain point it's kind of on them.
     
  6. TallJoe

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    I spoke once with a broker from Farrington Logistics last year about a multi stop load of some second rate mail..I did not want the load originally because there were too many stops and I would have ended up empty in Phoenix, AZ over the weekend, but everything has its price so I gave him my rate. I think it was $4500. I would have hauled that load for that much last year. Today perhaps not so much... I'd need realistically 5K and a few hundred to consider. He disagreed at first but he called again the next morning and we still disagreed over $300, he said that my quote was not unreasonable but he would call me back within 15 minutes after getting an approval. He was not a 22 year old kid, he seemed a grown up with some authority, especially, after giving me some speech on how he preferred to deal with small carriers or owner operators, as he can trust them more for the load commitment and that there would be much less likelihood that load would be double-brokered, consolidated or otherwise messed up. I thanked him for his trust but he never called back, though, I did not care too much about it. 15 minutes later, however, the same structured load appeared on DAT for $300 less what he wanted. Although, that time it was not Land Star. I thought about calling the guy and tell him about it but decided not to waste time, or even perhaps being told it was none of my business.
    This sort of thing made think about this double brokering practice as something perfectly evil yet allowable in the free Market where Adam Smith Invisible Hand or Austrian Economic School followers aka Libertarians would never disapprove of, justifying it by the virtue of "if there is market for it, then there is need for it", the same way they justify Usury and complete human being exploitation as virtuous too. I can't somehow stomach that, though I am far from being a Marxist but in this case I would stay on his side.
    With real estate flip flopping there is at least some value added sometimes. Is there anything of value of a double brokered load? A flip flopped load... Maybe indeed some regulations could be introduced with this regard.
     
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  7. boredsocial

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    LOL he made that whole speech and then gave it out to Landstar? That's comical.
     
  8. loudtom

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    No, he said that time it wasn't Landstar.
     
  9. Dan47

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    Isn't double brokerage against the law? How come regulators don't do anything about it?
     
  10. Scooter Jones

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  11. Jatlyons

    Jatlyons Light Load Member

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    I am kind of new to this forum but I would like to come up with a list of agents who are guilty of either A. double brokering B canceling a good number of your loads last minute or C they often don't even have the load they are booking you on yet, which leads to B

    Landstar not going to do anything about dirty agents. The only way to get rid of them is to starve them out of the company

    For example:
    HEM C does not have the load
    RVW A cancels last minute
    CGI B possible, canceled FedEx load suspicious

    Is it possible to make an editable list and stick it somewhere where people can add to it? maybe put marks next to it every time it happens
     
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