Log question from a 39 yr vet

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by MooneyBravo, Oct 31, 2019.

  1. MooneyBravo

    MooneyBravo Heavy Load Member

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    I haven't done any split logging since the days of training new drivers back in the early 90s. I deliver cars and they got this new ridiculous log tracking device on our trucks now called Samsara. It used to be I could deliver my cars and get away with up to an hour over on my 14 as long as I didn't abuse it but now they don't even want us going 5 minutes over unless you have a mighty good reason. I have three stops to get off in the middle of the night before I go home to reset. When I checked into the hotel about 3:30 pm I had about three hours left on my 14-hour clock. I know that I will gain 14 back after a full 10-hour off duty but what about if I went back on duty after only 8 hours? Would I gain any time?

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    You should be able to use any of the unused 11/14 from before you took your break, but you cannot exceed your 11/14/70.

    Split break is basically:
    • 8 hours pauses your 14
    • 2 hours does not pause your 14
    • the two break periods (8 and 2) can be taken in any order
    • the two work periods on either side of either break, added together, cannot exceed your 11/14/70
     
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  3. MooneyBravo

    MooneyBravo Heavy Load Member

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  4. MooneyBravo

    MooneyBravo Heavy Load Member

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    Ok thanks
    I need about 5 hrs so I guess that means I'm in for 10.
     
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  5. PE_Trans

    PE_Trans Road Train Member

    The 8 hrs must be in sleeper berth. The 2 hrs can be off duty or sleeper.

    Example:
    08:00, drive 7 hrs
    15:00, take 8-hr sleeper break (pauses 14)
    23:00, drive 4 hrs (11-hr drive rule)
    03:00, take 2-hr break
    05:00, can drive 7 hrs (new 14-hr clock starting from 23:00)

    The example above has been simplified. It’s missing two pre-trips and one post-trip inspection. You want a pre-trip at 08:00 and 23:00, and also a post-trip at 03:00 or 05:00.

    Your ELD will do this automatically. Keep an eye on your summary tab to verify once the 8-hr sleeper or the 2-hr break have gone through. The 2-hr break is optional. Some people just use the 8-hr split once, and then continue their usual schedule of taking a 10-hr break.
     
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  6. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    Yeah, 8 hours SB will only pause your clock. You will have the same time left after the 8 SB as when you started. You kinda need to plan a head to use them.

    Like if you get held up someplace for 4 hours or so, and aren't working, it would be a good time to start a split. You can spend a bit of in SB to work on the 8, sit for a few more hours to "pause" the clock so you have the same hours left as you did when you finished with your "on-duty" work.

    Say you had 4 hours drive time left. You could drive the 4 hours then take two hours off-duty to complete the "10 hour". You would get your hours back minus the four hours you drove between the split. So you would get 7 hours drive time back after the split.

    You could get hours back after an 8 SB if you had two hours off-duty or SB beforehand... You can do an 8/2 or 2/8. But only 8 SB will "pause" your clock.
     
  7. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    you only get back what you used before midnight. so if you used 7 hours. then you get back 7 hours after doing a sleeper split after midnight
     
  8. PE_Trans

    PE_Trans Road Train Member

    I don’t think that sounds right. It seems like you’re mistaking the 8-hr split with the HOS recap.
     
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  9. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    i dont know i mite be confused. im on 750mg robaxnin
     
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  10. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    its a side effect
     
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