Looking for advice for end dump purchase steel or aluminum

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  1. Janniboy

    Janniboy Bobtail Member

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    Hello, I am in the market for a used end dump for my excavation company. We do home lots so would be hauling stumps plus various types of fill. My question is can I haul stumps in an aluminum trailer with a liner or will they tear up the liner? Would steel be better option. I am in NH so I either need a 34' tri axle to reach 100,000 lbs or I will stick with a 28' to get into tight spaces. If I have a 100,000 lb option I can sub out to the local gravel pit. Thank you.
     
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  3. REO6205

    REO6205 Road Train Member

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    Steel. Aluminum is fine for refined products but it won't hold up to a steady diet of stumps and other demo related loads.
     
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  4. W923

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    Sounds to me like the empty weight is not really that critical to what you’re doing and aluminum will not last long with demo debris even if it is just stumps
     
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  5. abyliks

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    Pretty sure you actually need 38’ to get the 100k now

    I would probably find a used MA spec steel trailer with a high lift or barn door and live with the 80k for stumps and demo, and an aluminum Tri axle for everything else

    Other option is go with the aluminum trailer and get a Tri axle dump with a steel body for the hard stuff

    either that or you need to figure out which is more important to you, because you aren’t going to make much subbing out a steel trailer if you can’t get the tonnage on
     
  6. REO6205

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    Not legally anyway.;)

    Out here our 28' end dumps are limited to 73,280 but since they usually work hourly...and everyone else is limited to the same... we usually just load and go. We don't have a lot of scales to cross an d we've never had a problem. As a matter of fact when the state turned a local small scale into a super-coop we hauled all the export dig-out and pre paving import, kept the weight down to 80 grand, and everyone made some money.
    Most of our work is for public agencies and the 28 footers are just the right size on job sites.
     
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  7. abyliks

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    A lot of places aren’t letting trucks out overweight now, MA is 99k for 5, NH and VT are also 99k but you need 6, (think you need 6 in Maine as well)

    Tri axle dump trucks (tandem with a lift) are 77k all over New England, he would be better off going with a hard ox body and a high lift for the rough stuff and an aluminum trailer
     
  8. Janniboy

    Janniboy Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for your comments. We have a 10 wheeler and a Tri axle steel dump. I am just trying to be more efficient. I can't buy time... Seems I want the impossible, one trailer that fits both needs. In the end I will haul mostly my own mixed excavation. I don't see us subbing out to a pit very often. So maybe a steel triaxle trailer with high lift gate and not worry about the liner. Depending on the length, NH can certify it for 86 to 99,000 It should still save some loads with stumps vs the triaxle and we have a Mack tractor with a PTO that just sits around unless we are using the lowboy.
     
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  9. W923

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    Not sure what your insurance and licensing situation looks like but generally speaking trailers are cheap to keep around…. So get one of each. My thoughts would be buy a cheap beat up steel trailer for your excavation projects and if you think you need another one to move in clean material go get a nicer aluminum one and then try to do some custom work with it. Maybe there’s some smaller dump trucking operations around there that would fill in when you need extra capacity and just skip buying the trailer all together. Sometimes it’s cheaper to hire a truck with a driver than hire a driver and figure out how to keep them busy the rest of the time
     
  10. Janniboy

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    I agree with that, bit more expensive, but save the 2-month long headache of trying to pick the right one. Yes, good deals on Short steels. Thanks
     
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