Discussion in 'Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad' started by Socal Xpress, Mar 14, 2016.

  1. dngrous_dime

    dngrous_dime Road Train Member

    Jan 28, 2014
    GR, MI
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  3. TAfool

    TAfool Medium Load Member

    Dec 8, 2012
    Riddle me this!

    If a lumper and payment is "required" to unload a trailer, why isn't a lumper and payment "required" to load the trailer?

    I don't load on pick up so why should I unload on delivery?

    Yo, Bctih! It don't say UPS on the truck.

  4. poppapump1332

    poppapump1332 Road Train Member

    Jan 2, 2010
    It's like a lot of other things in trucking until people stop putting up with it nothing will change for the better!
  5. Donnie1962

    Donnie1962 Bobtail Member

    Apr 10, 2016
    No way am I going to unload my trailer. If my company, and all the other companies, are so dumb that they fall for the lumper scam, or too spineless to stand up to Consignees who practice this legalized extortion, then let them pay it. I don't touch freight. Not now, not ever. I'm a professional driver, not a common laborer.
  6. inandoutoftrouble

    inandoutoftrouble Road Train Member

    Sep 20, 2012
    Wichita KS
    You definitely have a point!

    God bless every American and their families! God bless the U.S.A.!
    Last edited: May 12, 2016
  7. Socal Xpress

    Socal Xpress Road Train Member

    Dec 6, 2014
    Los Angeles, Ca
    I try and avoid food loads but sometimes you just have to do them. I have unloaded before but never food DC's. They tend to be picky.
  8. buckmanmike

    buckmanmike Light Load Member

    Jan 20, 2010
    in the country, georgia
    The trucking companies build the lumper fees into their shipping rate. They are not losing money, but get free labor from the driver to handle the lumper transaction.
    Since trucking company knows there will be a lumper fee, why don't they have it prepaid so driver can take a break.
  9. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

    Mar 5, 2016
    White County, Arkansas
    Lumpers are a double edge sword. They can are usually are a scourge and sometimes are a blessing if there is no money cash handed over or already unloaded by the receiver.

    It's been decades since I went into York and was raised not too far from there. I can tell you that you could unload the truck yourself or you have someone do it.

    Once you identify a receiver that plays storage games with you as described by the OP, I would never haul for that receiver again. I used to keep a black book in which I accumulated receivers. Years ago there was a major distribition facility for Meijers near the Detroiter in which I did some major lumping while fighting off a horde of lumpers on the freeway side unloading docks. Near the end of my trucking, I was told to deliver a load back there and they will unload it. I told them #########, you either pay to unload, lump it or you find yourself somehow being cheated out of money to get it delivered there. Dispatch assured me that they will unload it.

    Lo and behold it must have been paid for in the frieght billing becuase I was directed around back where they had a entire crew standing by to empty my trailer in a hour while the freeway side continued to endure lumpers and chaos related to that.

    One of the things required of you as a trucker was the strength and endurance to unload 48,000 pounds from big wood onto small wood and then get going to drive to get loaded half a day away potentially loading that as well, logs be ###### in those days. That was what 2 or 3 logbooks did. Preserve the driving hours. There has been times I made more lumping than driving.

    All of that will end in time during my later years because time and age takes a toll and I prefer to use that time in the sleeper tor rest up for the next run. Or better yet find a company with drop hook customers and go drop and hook. 20 minutes and gone easy money.

    With the robotics in play there is no more reason to have lumpers. Machines can get it now.

    I leave you with this thought, if you ever go into Hunts point with a split load, meaning one customer gets your steaks here and on the other side of the Hunt's point another customer gets the rest of the trailer already sorted, stacked and palletized according to thier needs by shipper (With Dispatch telling you not to allow anyone to touch the second part of the load, it does not belong to them)

    You have to stand your ground. Once the first part of HP's unloaded, throw the reciever off your trailer, slam the doors and drive away no matter the mouth and attitude you will get. If you are stupid and cave in to allow the reciever to play on your fears you are going to not only pay the reciever one money and then find you have to now pay reciever two the moneys potentially already paid all around before you picked up the load.

    That is my gift. Do not let anyone touch anything in that trailer that does not belong to them. So many go into HP NYC and get fleeced like sheep being sheared for the wool. And the cash lost ...
  10. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    May 28, 2009
    Rancho Mirage, Ca.
    Newsflash people ! ! Standby..........the load is NOT delivered until it's on the consignee's dock. How can you consider it "delivered" if its still on your trailer ? The lumper situation is another subject, which has been beaten to death.
    buzzarddriver Thanks this.
  11. Donnie1962

    Donnie1962 Bobtail Member

    Apr 10, 2016
    Excuse me, Your Highness...
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