Moving Personal Property for leisure with truck

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  1. Bamrbaker

    Bamrbaker Bobtail Member

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    I searched around, I know I can move my property. I have it on my DOT reg. My question is should I run under commercial rules or put a NFH sticker on the side when I'm moving personal property. Here are the 2 scenarios
    -Moving personal 5th wheel to camp, not making any money here
    -Moving personal Jeep on SD to OHV parks, not making any money here
    I'm thinking the easier route is run under commercial rules/ log book like I usually would, pull into scales, etc. Worst case they look at me stupid, seems it's the safer bet. I don't mind that it goes against my clock or IFTA. It doesn't happen enough to make a huge difference and I'm not driving over 11/ working over 14 even if I could. Would I need a BOL? Or would the registration for the camper/ jeep be enough?
    If I didn't run under commercial rules I'm thinking I could get messed with for apportioned/ token plates and not weighing etc even with the NFH magnet. Plus I'd be in PC mode for umpteen number of miles with a trailer which is technically illegal I think and flags during audit. Advice is always appreciated.
     
  2. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    No bol is needed.

    Put it under an authority, make sure you have insurance and plate legal.

    Run it within the hos and treat every move as it is commercial,
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Not any longer. The only requirement that deals with a load now is cannot advance a load. Trailer or lack of, or even loaded or unloaded doesn't matter.
     
  4. Bamrbaker

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    You know now that you say that, on a different topic for a minute, I read that PC mode can be used to "get to a safe location" after the 14hr clock expires to avoid a HOS violation. As long as it's not abused. So technically if I ran out of hrs and made a U turn in the ditch, I'm not advancing the load to its destination. I can go the opposite way to find a place to park.
    Anyway. How about mileage restrictions for PC mode? I have never been able to find a mileage restriction, only that of certain companies. I'm an O/O so doesn't apply. But I suspect a DOT officer/ trooper could look at it wrong if pulled over and my last 3 days and 1200 miles were PC mode. Whether they're wrong on the side of the road or not, it generally takes the hassle of returning to deal with a judge to get out of a erroneous ticket.
     
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  5. Bamrbaker

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    Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Just run it as a commercial load and be done with it. Thanks.
     
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  6. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Here is the new guidance. Personal Conveyance
    In a nutshell if the move is 100% personal it's allowed and loaded doesn't mater. I.e. could you do this in a rented car? Like get groceries, restaurant, movies, etc...
    Then there are two, and only two, examples of moving that are not 100% personal.
    1. Getting told to move by an LEO.
    2. Getting kicked out of a shipper/reciever and then only to the first safe location.

    There is no limit on mileage, but in your example it would still not be legal. I.E. you did not get kicked out of a shipper/reciever.
     
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    You're saying the above 2 are examples where you CAN use PC mode even though it's not 100% personal? Correct? I'm reading it now.
     
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  9. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Correct.
     
  10. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    But it sounds like your move is 100% personal. Am I read wrong?
     
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