Moving Personal Property for leisure with truck

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  1. Mid-May Trucker

    Mid-May Trucker Medium Load Member

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    You can pc to a safe location even if it is not from a shipper he says you can't
     
  2. Bamrbaker

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    I do have Interstate Authority. Still have to stop for entry permit in NM as part of the new Highway use tax laws. I haven't gotten an account with them because you have to get an account with the comptroller, then another account with NMDOT, they're linked together but not really. I don't go enough to mess with all that jazz. So I just stop at the POE
     
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  4. Mid-May Trucker

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    I had to personal conveyance about 3 mi to a truck stop about a month ago I can't wait to get ticket for it and if they don't give me a ticket ill Make sure to show then your post so that they are reminded it's illegal
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    You CAN NOT USE PC TO MAKE MOVES WITH UNLIMITED MILEAGE.

    99% of the time number three is used by drivers.

    The following are examples of when operating a CMV is considered off-duty:
    1. Time spent traveling from a driver’s en route lodging (such as a motel or truck stop) to restaurants and entertainment facilities.

    2. Commuting between the driver’s terminal and his or her residence, between trailer-drop lots and the driver’s residence, and between work sites and his or her residence. In these scenarios, the commuting distance combined with the release from work and start to work times must allow the driver enough time to obtain the required restorative rest as to ensure the driver is not fatigued.

    3. Time spent traveling to a nearby, reasonable, safe location to obtain required rest after loading or unloading. The time driving under personal conveyance must allow the driver adequate time to obtain the required rest in accordance with minimum off-duty periods under 49 CFR 395.3(a)(1) (property-carrying vehicles) or 395.5(a) (passenger-carrying vehicles) before returning to on-duty driving, and the resting location must be the first such location reasonably available.

    4. Moving a CMV at the request of a safety official during the driver’s off-duty time

    5. Time spent traveling in a motorcoach without passengers to en route lodging (such as motel or truck stop), or to restaurants and entertainment facilities and back to the lodging. In this scenario, the driver of the motorcoach can claim personal conveyance provided the driver is off-duty. Other off-duty drivers may be on board the vehicle, and are not considered passengers.

    6. Time spent transporting personal property while off-duty.

    7. Authorized use of a CMV to travel home after working at an offsite location.


    When I asked three major states I operate in - Michigan, Ohio and Indiana, without hesitation i was told pc means limited mileage travel, under 50 miles not 300.
     
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  6. ZVar

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    Depends on why, now doesn't it There is no guidance so it will be up to the LEO. Yes in the context of moving a CMV under normal conditions I'd agree with you. However pulling a personal camper on a camping trip several hundred miles is reasonable.
    But you are correct that in either case it's up to the LEO to define reasonable.

    Which reminds me another point for the op. Make sure you carry a copy of the RV's title in your name with you to prove you aren't simply in the RV hauling business.
     
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  7. Ridgeline

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    Go check with msp, their guidence says reasonable, Ohio has a bulletin on the issue.

    The alternative to this is what I did, I just put a cassette toilet in the sleeper, mounted to the floor and put a fold down sink, got the thing inspected to get the title changed to an rv title. I spend 600 for plates and $400 for insurance for the year, travel anywhere with it.

    Simple and fixes a lot of the issues for me.

    The first year everything was left alone, then I stretched the chassis, put a deck on it and used it to haul stuff with and pulled a large fifth wheel with it.

    Been pulled over a bunch of times, got four or five tickets and they've always been dropped in court. Even had a dot officer tell me I was out of service.
     
  8. Bamrbaker

    Bamrbaker Bobtail Member

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    This is really my big point to stuff that's in the grey, whether you're right or wrong it's up to a LEO at that moment.
    [/QUOTE]Make sure you carry a copy of the RV's title in your name with you to prove you aren't simply in the RV hauling business.[/QUOTE]
    I keep the registration in the glove box, all good points though.
     
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  9. ZVar

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    Which proves you were reasonable and the DOT officer was wrong....

    Again, there is no mileage limit. What is reasonable for say a driver getting kicked out of a receiver is different than what is reasonable for someone pulling their personal RV.
     
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  10. Mid-May Trucker

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    FMCSA to Drivers: Don’t Overthink Personal Conveyance Time
    “You can move the vehicle to the nearest safe location on personal conveyance time to get rest, and you don’t have to go backwards. This is one of those times where it’s OK to continue on the progress of the load as long as you are stopping at the nearest reasonable, safe location. We deliberately don’t define that because that’s a judgment call on the part of the driver.” YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS
    He added, “We don’t want a driver parking in a lot that doesn’t have any lighting or any protection. We don’t want anybody parking on the side of the highway where it’s unsafe. You can make the call.”
    get rekt ZVar
     
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