My experience with PAM - C1, and Driver Solutions

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by yahushua, Mar 26, 2018.

  1. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

    Apr 8, 2009
    Here it the thing OP, if you were in 'finance' why the hell would you finance 6K+ of trucking school without researching in the least, who you are going to owe 6k or two years of your working life too? By the hour that is about the most expensive schooling out there. Their are a dozen ways to get in a truck cheaper, with less overhead, less risk, less fustration, more pay, then teaming in a training company. Appearently you didn't do your research or read your schooling contract in the least like most finance officer recommend, and you were in 'finance.'

    While I appreciate your account of things at PAM, the fact is you replace PAM with any number of training companies and it would be the same.

    Now, your hopping to USX because the trucks a PAM don't meet your standards. And the trucks are supposed USX? See how well you researched that? Screen Shot 2018-03-29 at 11.32.39 AM.png

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    The DOT says their is almost twice as many issues with USX trucks then PAM.
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  3. jdavis0036

    jdavis0036 Bobtail Member

    May 6, 2018
    I just finished C1 a few week ago and I quit drinking and cigz some time ago but by my 5th week of training this place had me tookin a few....on my second and third state cdl test, mechanical issues (1st...broken mirror 2nd..air brake lockup & engine stalling) in middle of backing skills) with ended both of my attempts...
    If it wasnt for me being in a nice hotel and having quality time away from my crazy woman id probably would have made the local news...But it was good practice for possible situations that are a real possibility once i hit the Big Highway...But s##ty equipment should not be the norm for the price we pay togo...But in the end I accomplished my objective...On to the next trick...Personally I would strongly advise to find a school where you can get individual attention and help in any area that you may struggle..C1 basically shows you 1x and throw you out the nest and you better grow some wings and learn how to fly before you hit the pavement...but i saw guys who couldn't spell their name and walk make it to be fair its alot of studing and self motivation...4 to 6 week shotgun course
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  4. dukeofearl

    dukeofearl Light Load Member

    Aug 29, 2008
    yahushua, ahem.... actually, all that you've written sounds like a typical carrier. This is the reason for turnover averaging over 100%. I have over 2,000,000 accident free miles over 20 years, with 10 carriers. They all suck. They all lie. They all cheat. They all deceive in the recruiting. And the margins are always so thin that profits have to come out of the drivers paychecks... paycheck theft. I am reminded of the song, "Gypsy's, Tramps and Thieves".
    As an aside, my first carrier had six of us orientation graduates load up in a mid-size rental car after orientation about 5:00 pm and drive 10 hours to Sacramento, CA where the trucks were. We could not bring all our stuff, or even our bedding because the trunk was only big enough for each man a carry-on size luggage. But were promised our first load would bring us immediately back to home terminal so we could get our stuff. But that didn't happen. And I was kept in California where the towns and stores wont allow a truck to come on the property to do any shopping, so I slept on a bare mattress with no bedding or pillow for about a month until I could earn hometime. Theres a lot more, I could write a book, seriously.
    But I have never seen anyone write up an expose' as intelligently as yours, I bow to you. I hope someday you will write a book.... may I suggest a title? How about, "Gypsy's, Tramps and Thieves" :)
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  5. danoles93

    danoles93 Bobtail Member

    Jun 10, 2013
    current truck payments are $499/wk for 2016 Freightliner Cascadias with electric APU and about $450/mo for insurance (bobtail, full comprehensive and collision w/ $2500 deductible, occupational hazard and $300,000 life)
    You also get 11 cpg off cash price at Love's and TA/Petro.
  6. Fxdvr

    Fxdvr Bobtail Member

    Feb 5, 2019
    I went through c-1 Indianapolis and went to work for pam transport around 2003. Sounds like they haven't changed. In my opinion pam and c-1 (drivers solutions) are in bed together. C-1 hands them driver's, pam starves said drivers so they quit,driver solutions collects 7000 for breach of contract. And probably slides some Pam's way to fill in profit gap of low bid freight. I'm still trying to figure out how a truck driving school in Indiana has a Pennsylvania school cert. ( if I remember correctly)also my contract was printed on sample forms they didnt have the rights to.
  7. jeff18

    jeff18 Medium Load Member

    Dec 8, 2014
    pittsburgh, pa
    Good read. Are you still with us express. Are you planning on staying in the industry?
  8. amirharis

    amirharis Bobtail Member

    Jun 20, 2020
    i didn't got hired by pam after graduation due to unverify employment. I was ready b4 and still wanna work for pam but they are not intersted in me . Now after 4 months driver sol calling me and harrasing for collecting tution fees 6000. I have not got a trucking job yet due to no exp. How can I pay to driver sol if they couldn't get me a job which they said initially 12 months contract. I am depress .. guys any input.. i want to get attorney
  9. 3523

    3523 Light Load Member

    Oct 27, 2015

    If you have a CDL but no experience there are plenty of companies that will put you with a strainer for 5 five weeks until you go solo. Call (Swift) and talk to a recruiter. Swift isn’t a bad starter company.
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  10. Ghosttrucker123

    Ghosttrucker123 Bobtail Member

    Jul 10, 2015
    I had been off work for 12 years, but driven before 7.5 years, old company would not take me back. So Driver Solutions was a good choice and Pam. I went to a Days Inn Ft. Worth, month before Covid-19 started, wasn't the Ritz but no worse than motel 6.

    Attended 4 weeks of trucking school which if I was beginning student, I be worried, they really don't teach you enough, they prepare you to pass the exam and that's it. Most of the instructors should not been instructors, lack of patience. I already knew it be 4 weeks so I took full 10 days to memorize pre-trip, then off to backing passed that in a day, got to driving part, since I passed backing so fast, I didn't drive for a week watching other learn how to drive an automatic. Then my turn and rush to get me to exam cause school be shutting down due to Covid-19. I passed exam.

    I took extra week off and mentor from Pam picked me up few miles from home. Mentor realized I had many more years of driving than him, It was a very fun experience of 2 weeks. I did need help on the electronics and GPS, but I had a good time.

    Went to orientation at Irving terminal, now I understand orientation is now online, mine was 2.5 days of packed of information. Time to get my truck, I requested a Peterbilt and that's want I got with 124k miles on it. I took pics of scratches and bent parts and sent to cell number given. Inside wasn't bad at all, got a load and took off.

    As with all new beginnings, there are bumps in the road, but I been here 6 months and the company is growing on me, my DM knows I will delivery on time and I get good miles. And yes, I had read all the stories about Pam as well, but life is all different with positive outlook, plus I had prior experience. I am a solo driver and most likely will become a mentor as I was in prior time a driver. Trucking is about picking up and delivering on time, many people can't seem to understand this is most different kind of life. Do the year and then think about your future, but Pam gets me home within a day of when I ask for it. And they will pay for 2/3rds of what I owe c1 after a year. Pay is much greater as team and it is not .20 split.

    All the trucks I have seen is very good shape, breakdown within couple hours gets tires fixed, truck left at Peterbilt on off time was convenient.
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2020
    Reason for edit: It changed to a post before I had gotten done.
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