New Broker wants O/O advise

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by frghtshkr, Jul 28, 2013.

  1. wstar2003

    wstar2003 Light Load Member

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    Bless Jehovah I will attempt to explain this once more and that's it. Transactions have different parts. Just like they have different parties. Just because you were a party to one PART of the transaction does not entitle you to view the parts which do not PERTAIN to you. They are impertinent to you because as a carrier you were not necessary at that point in the transaction. You became necessary at the point when the broker and the shipper came to agreement WITH EACHOTHER, with no input from you. How could YOU be a party to that? Now begins the carrier's involvement in the transaction, not from the beginning of it. You act like you can walk in there and ask and they have to lay it right out there for you from beginning to end. That is not the way it works. Someone put the word PERTAIN in there for a specific reason. You are entitled to review the broker's records PERTAINING to the services YOU provided as a carrier. You are not, however, entitled to review the service HE provided to his shipper, because it DOES NOT PERTAIN to you. What he charged the shipper is none of YOUR concern. Whatever number you and the broker agreed on is none of the SHIPPER'S concern. It does not PERTAIN to him. Therefore, he is not entitled to review that part of the transaction. I'm not getting through at all.:banghead:
     
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  3. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Federal law would disagree with you point of view.
     
  4. Horse Whisperer

    Horse Whisperer Light Load Member

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    Precisely... the Federal Uniform Bill of Lading Act mandates disclosure, upon written request, of the agreement, including rate agreed upon between shipper and broker... ya may not LIKE it, but that IS the law... arguing morality, decency, privacy, etc is useless... try getting by a logbook inspection by claiming any of those "rights"
     
  5. klkruger

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    Agreed. But it's not helpful. Nor especially useful. If I ever felt a real need to request that information from a broker I would seriously need to question why I was doing business with that broker in the first place.
     
  6. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Exactly why the law was put in place.......


    I have made a reference to this law a couple of times when I thought a broker was being shady.....

    Suddenly there was money to pay a fair rate....


    But I still refused to do business with that broker for the very fact my gut said there was something not right.....
     
  7. Jimmbuds

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    I live in Florida but I get all my freight out of Alabama so I live in Alabama. Yes it takes an act of congress to get back to Alabama cuz everyone wants to come here.
     
  8. wstar2003

    wstar2003 Light Load Member

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    The Federal Uniform Bills of Lading Act was superseded by Article 7 of the Uniform Commercial Code years ago. Please don't refer to it as mandated law in 2013.
     
  9. Horse Whisperer

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    REALLY??? Hmmmm.... the Section 7 you refer to IS part of the Uniform BOL Act... 49 U.S.C. 80101 et seq... I guess someone should notify Congress that their legislation has been superseded...

    [h=2]49 U.S.C. § 80101 : US Code - Section 80101: Definitions[/h] [h=3]Search 49 U.S.C. § 80101 : US Code - Section 80101: Definitions[/h]




    In this chapter - (1) "consignee" means the person named in a bill of lading as the person to whom the goods are to be delivered. (2) "consignor" means the person named in a bill of lading as the person from whom the goods have been received for shipment. (3) "goods" means merchandise or personal property that has been, is being, or will be transported. (4) "holder" means a person having possession of, and a property right in, a bill of lading. (5) "order" means an order by indorsement on a bill of lading. (6) "purchase" includes taking by mortgage or pledge. (7) "State" means a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and a territory or possession of the United States.Still in effect... uh oh! Call the U.S. Marshals!
     
  10. SamTheMan

    SamTheMan Light Load Member

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    :biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559: You are an entertaining junior TQL broker.....
     
  11. wstar2003

    wstar2003 Light Load Member

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    You are "the man" for insults, aren't you!:yes2557: Everybody gets shut down from time to time, no need for personal attacks!:biggrin_25525:
     
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