Newer truck with emissions,(2019-2024) is it worth it?

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  1. Antinomian

    Antinomian Road Train Member

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    The early ones didn't have DEF, only DPF.
    So no NOX sensors, only temperature and pressure.
     
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  3. Midwest Trucker

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    As far as I know Jan of 26 will be 2027 trucks and the new motors. I have to look into it more. Any feedback good or bad from the mechanic?
     
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  4. snowwy

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    A 2020 x15 got a new head at 175k.
    I'm guessing it's a 17 type motor.

    From how that thing sounded like a dang tank. I have a good idea what oil pete was using.

    From what I've seen of past cummins. There's only one oil that makes that thing purr like a kitty and gives the best economy.

    That same oil is now in the paccar I'm driving. It runs cooler and isn't having emissions problems like it had before.
     
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  5. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    Im sure any motor could have a problem. I do wonder how often that 175k mile motor had the oil changed though.

    I never have any problems but also change at 25k well below the factory recommendation.
     
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  6. Rideandrepair

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    The Company I just quit has about 20 Coronado Gliders. 5 are still brand new. Just sitting. Also has about 15 Volvos, and about 25 Cascadia’s. Out of 60 Trucks, about 15 are parked. Just switched from dino to synthetic oil, went from 10k to 15k on oil changes. The Dino was draining out looking like new. It’s overkill, arguably a waste of money. The Trucks all are in top shape though. Even the 700k mile 12.7 don’t have any blow by at idle. I’m tempted to buy a Coronado from him when he decides to start selling them. If one gets down to 7 mpg, he replaces all the injectors. For whatever reason, going forward he’s buying all Cascadia’s w/Detroits, and automatics. The Volvos with automatics get 8-8.5mpg on average. The Coronados with 13 speeds, 7.3-7.7. I think the Volvos are costing too much for parts, the engines are good, but emissions systems require a lot of maintenance. One Volvo has cost $30k, only to find out it needed a ECM upgrade. All the others are getting upgraded before problems arise. I think buying all Cascadia’s will simplify things. Meanwhile he’s rebuilding some of the Coronados already. One got inframed at 500k. There’s always a chance of things like that. He can easily afford it. Cost averaging. Single O/O needs a rebuild at 500k its a disaster.
     
  7. Accidental Trucker

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    Nothing specific, other than more complexity, especially with the pre-heating on the after treatment system. And complexity is never better.
     
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  8. KDHCryo

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    I bought a used 2020 Cascadia 126 last year. DD13 @ 400HP, DT12, 365K on it, EW5 warranty till 550K mi, through Freightliner for 69K out the door, Doggett Freightliner. Had to add vertical exhaust and a PTO, another 10 grand, plus sales tax, etc, 85K.

    This year I've done both NOx sensors, (900$, get new ones), a wheel seal (400$), replaced batteries with a better LiPo setup (2000$)

    I haul tanker, routinely 79.5k lbs up and down I-77 in WV, and have averaged 7.8 mpg over the course of 120K miles this year.

    Detroit makes THE best powertrain available for efficiency. When Kenworth Paccar gives up their MX dream and puts a DD15 with Meritor drivetrain in a W900, I'll probably cash out my Roth IRA to buy one.
     
  9. KDHCryo

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    I do oil change and filter at 30K with Mobil one extreme 15w-40. Daimler (mercedes) ####s everyone over on filters, a DD13 costs $313 of the oil and 2 fuel filters. Air is 1$55 at the dealer. I changed the first time with Mobil 5w-30 that Detroit approves but my oil pressure was dropping to 35-40 at cruise, which is acceptable but I don't like it. Especially since I'm always on the jake at 2100RPM running the hills. I wanna see that oil above 40PSI all the time.

    Volvo parts are priced like they are made of solid gold.
     
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  10. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    That’s it, have to consider everything. Including insurance.
     
  11. KDHCryo

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    Correct, you have to consider that. My insurance is subsidized because I haul for Schneider, under their DOT number.

    My insurance is 37$/ week while I contract under them. Bobtail, freight, Hauling, everything. $180/mo.
     
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