Newer trucks can't handle extreme cold?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by nightgunner, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. Jazz1

    Jazz1 Road Train Member

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    The DEF dispensers at fuel pumps are rarely operational in -30 temps around here for some reason. Keep that in mind if you land up here.
     
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  2. BigGee

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    Alot of these new drivers are cutting there trucks off during these extreme temperature. Running there apu's and that is causing these trucks to tear up. Keep your diesel and def tanks full and keep the truck idling
     
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  3. rollin coal

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    Yeah and when you excessively idle to keep everything thawed your future is bright with check engine lights. It's a double edged sword. Overengineered complicated junk.
     
  4. x1Heavy

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    I agree.

    I stake my entire everything on that truck engine running no matter the cost to fuel. In fact it has enough to protect the fuel from going bad via gelling etc. You cannot expect a tiny APU to do this work.

    A long time ago through sheer incompetance or forgetfulness in a shop one of our two tanks were shut off at the fuel line where it connects to the engine. We had run on what turned out to be one tank almost a week until we reached roanoke to fuel near the 77 interchange. We fueled and wondered why one tank was full and the other essentially empty.

    That question was answered when she starved of fuel after the filters quit working being gummed out by the gel in the old tank. The winter weather at that time was around 10 or above zero or so, had been all week. Enough time to completely ruin one whole tank of fuel. Why we did not understand the situation related to how the truck was not using one tank instead of normal drain and return heated fuel to both tanks was part of a failure on our part to adequately visually check the fuel tanks each day. It's not done often.

    I have been reading many posts from people who are saying they shut off trucks overnight or whatever in -30 or something currently and now they have problems come morning.

    It only reinforces my concept or theory that people are truly not that stupid, but the training has failed them utterly this winter. In combination with the failures imposed by the fluids to help comply with laws against emissions.

    Anyone worth salt knows that a proper working diesel will throw down some smoke and develop good power doing it. IF a long shaft mine can run a small diesel engine loco using a paper based filter can to capture virtually all particulates why are we truckers not using very big paper cans to catch and toss the captured particulates? Someone answer me that.

    You never shut off a truck in this kind of cold. Is it necessary for you to be killed or damaged and then learn that basic lesson? And who are the companies to tell you to shut off when it's life threatening cold as it is right now.
     
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  5. x1Heavy

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    What I would do is rewire the dash christmas warning lights to external chicken LED lights

    HE HE HE....
     
  6. jamespmack

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    I hate idling. With that I have one job that I can't turn off when loading hopper bottom. Have to move truck every few seconds, or if its below -0. Not so much to keep me warm but when unoading at a high idle i still loose 10 to 20 degrees in engine temp. Now 0 and above and van or flat bed, I will shut down, and start it if I get cold if I have to wait in the truck. I have no problem buying and changing starters they are still cheaper than fuel. Haven't slept in a truck much. But used to get cab warm, plug in electric blanket, the shut engine down, sleep all night no problem. However no dilly dalling around when you woke up. And you woke up fast in the cold.
     
  7. Steel Dragon

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    Don't be cheap and not buy antigell.
    Most are fuel system related.
     
  8. driverdriver

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    Are ya sure cause I shut down in -7 the other morning , turned on the ol espar and the apu kicked on an off through out my break for the batteries.
    No fuel additives no problems' temps never got above +10.
    Although I didn't want to push my luck the next day -14 so I idled
    2017/2018 crapcadia.
     
  9. driverdriver

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    I remember about a year ago I was speaking with a fuel hauler for pilot he was telling me they don't start treating their fuel til it's +15 out. That was in Ohio,
     
  10. x1Heavy

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    And I love how those stupid letters thank the customer for being shafted with no DEF.

    Don't anyone understand 5 gallon bottles? Gurgle the #### thing into the holding tank...
     
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