Non-Domicile fatigue

You know what's not covered? Asylum seekers (ie Iraqis and Afghans who worked for us), TPS, and DACA. All of whom have a legal right to work in the US in any other capacity. We can quibble over the legitimacy of DACA's legal status, but as of right now they still have it. If a person can legally work in the US and can pass a CDL test, what is the issue?

The entire idea of non-domiciled cdls was to segregate those with a temporary status from those with permanent status. It has nothing to do with skill level, which is what my post you quoted was about.

My position is simple - a CDL should only be issued to qualified individuals. That means that can maneuver the vehicle, secure the freight, and communicate with others. If a person can't do any of those then they shouldn't be allowed to have a CDL. If a person doesn't have a legal right to work in the US then they shouldn't be able to obtain a CDL.

The individuals in this lawsuit have a legal right to work in the US. If they can pass the CDL test then I have no issue with them being on the road beyond my belief that the CDL test is far too easy.

 

The name issue isn't germane. There are 24 individuals with my EXACT same name in Wisconsin - first, middle, last, and suffix.

If your issue is with the "havoc they can cause, and have, and get away by leaving the country on the drop of a dime" then you need to deal with insurance requirements and vicarious liability. FMCSA should be checking the validity of insurance, as should brokers. Shippers and brokers should be held liable for the actions of the drivers hauling their freight. I'll go a step further and say that banks/private equity should be held liable for the criminal actions of those they finance.

Funny thing is that most of the 'nuclear verdicts' have nothing to do with non-domiciled cdls.

 

Losing their CDL and getting deported IS THE MODERATE OPTION.

 

You really are making lots of great points. I say we continue allowing people with zero experience driving ANY vehicle in the western world to continue obtaining CDL’s while we spend years re-regulating and writing hundreds of laws. Long-standing reputable businesses and millions of CDL holders should continue suffering as we address the true root cause because singling out the very apparent problematic drivers is ‘not fair’.

All the points you’re making will weed out the exact same drivers, but it’ll just take 10x longer to do it.

Since you believe there is no difference if they meet the qualifications and can pass the CDL test, I believe you should form a company and hire said drivers. When you have two applicants, one being a 30 year old American citizen, and one being a 30 year old Somali migrant, both new CDL holders, I say you should select the Somali migrant. The American citizen may only have 14 more years driving on American roadways, and higher standards for wages, equipment, and western world standards for professionalism, but it doesn’t matter since they both met the qualifications for a CDL.

Drivers have to be 21 years old to drive CDL-required vehicles interstate. Why don’t we just do away with that regulation and just start blaming shippers and trucking companies when a 16 year old kills someone? I mean, a 16 year old could be a plumber in theory, so why don’t we let them be long haul truck drivers in the summertime as well? We could just offset the insurance costs of hiring them by paying them 15 cents per mile since their wage standards are so much lower than most adults. It’ll be perfect! The best part is they won’t complain about the equipment either. I mean, a million mile Cascadia with bald steer tires and a cracked leaf spring surely beats working at McDonald’s for 7 dollars an hour. Worst case is they have a serious wreck and have to find a new career. They had no passion or interest in truck driving anyways, so not like it’ll break their heart to find a different career afterwards. If they can pass a CDL test like the 30 year old, there is no innate difference between the two at all. 10% of them are good drivers, so it’d be unfair to bar them from the career because 90% of them are dangers on the roadways.

 

I'm so sick of em. I was in Weatherford. Pumps were full. I got behind an Amazon truck with Minnesota plates. And waited for 10 minutes with no one fueling. Another pump opened up so I fueled there did all my business moved ahead to go get my receipt. I noticed the Somalian driver merrily ordering a sandwich. I couldn't resist asking if it was him in that truck. He said yes. I told him he was supposed to move. He asked if I was behind him, I said no. He said " mind your own effing business then". I told him to learn the rules and learn to drive. Also called him a piece of feces. I waited for him to come out but the guy behind me was done fueling, so I left. Also I'm in a company truck so making more trouble is not good. That bothered me for a couple of days. He was parked at the pump when I arrived and when I left 20 minutes he still was on a brake.

 

The dreamers are still fine, provided they met the requirements when their license was issued.

 

Guess his home country was a good enough place to return to after killing a few innocent people. Hopefully the new regs make it more difficult for guys like this to sneak back in with a new name.

 

And knowing how to speak English.

 

Just get rid of all of them and be done with it.

 

My question is why do they give a person who enters the US illegally a work permit? Might as well issue citizenship as they climb out of the river.