Ok I'll ask what has E-Logs got to do with

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Okieron, Jun 12, 2011.

  1. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    You just keep on burning that time... you'll be sitting at the truckstop on your reset and I'll be getting fuel and rolling out. And I sleep just fine. Usually on my right side, or my back.
     
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  3. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    like I envisioned it happening :biggrin_25523:
     
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  4. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Burning what time? If your reffering to the 70 hour I do resets at home.

    I guess I have that mythical job where you see your house. I personally think people that stay out beyond the 5th or 6th day are a little slow if you know what I mean.

    Well in fairness I have a friend with no family and few friends but even he plans his weekend to be somewhere he wants to be. All the people I see taking showers and doing laundry in Murfreesboro I just shake my head. There isn't enough money in the world to make me want to live in a box or motel room over the weekend.


    I left Mon at 9am this week which put me behind, but with 2645 done and 490 to the house after I unload and grab my reload in Jackson I'll be home tommorow about oh 1900-2000.

    As in my example one makes a choice. To be honest or not. Don't care if I judge you, judge yourself.

    As I said I fully understand people hold their word cheap.

    A man has his word. That is the only judge of his mettle and character. Of course only a man knows if he is being honest but the frauds will prove out by their own words. And a man that will lie will always lie when it is convenient.


    The reason I will trust a viscous dog entering my yard over most people. The dog will not lie. He is what he is and tells you so.

    From truck drivers to the jehova's ignorance brigade most men will lie jsut for convenince like lying to go home instead of planning better, or to convince me that everyone must lie so we can be saved.

    It is a choice.
     
  5. Meltom

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    I'd log it as it happened. I'm an idiot and proud of it. Sometimes life is good, sometimes life is bad. I can deal with that. Worse things are going to happen to me and in the grand scheme of thing those two hours are going to earn me what 5 bucks? I'm good.


    Take what I say with a grain of salt, I'm a part time office guy with a sugar momma that takes care of me.
     
  6. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    Meltom... the guy is on a pulpit, and I wanted to see if he could say he'd do the right thing and keep a straight face. Just like when Tom Cruise asked Jack Nicholson for the transfer order in A Few Good Men, I asked a question merely to gauge reaction.
     
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  7. Meltom

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    I'm with ya, I'm surprise he didn't answer log it as you do it. Maybe he did, I kinda zoned out when I was reading it. But you can't be all like safety safety safety, and then say something other than log it as you do it.

    I'm a pretty big movie guy, but law bores me to tears and military law is worse in my book. Maybe I should have considered that before going to college.
     
  8. lostNfound

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    Now we know you're a liar.
     
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  9. diesel_weasel

    diesel_weasel Medium Load Member

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    Although I stated I am done arguing with you on the validity and necessity of elogs, I couldn't resist responding to yet another one of your enlightening statements.

    Not all companies, freight, shippers and delivery times are going to cater to the M-F 9-5 wannabe truckers.

    I usually stayed out for 2-3 weeks and went home for 4,5, 6 days when I took my time off. I PREFERRED doing it this way. This gave me alone time to unwind, girlfriend time, and time to have fun, do weekend projects or actually have to to just relax and not think about scratchin gears for half a week. I can actually have time to take care of the things need to, vs being home 48 hrs or less, what some companies have the nerve to label as a "weekend" or "hometime."

    My company was set up in a way that 9 times out of 10 I could do a 34 hr or longer restart at my home or at the yard where one of my vehicles was, Its just the way their lanes worked and I lived along one of their lanes.

    :biggrin_2554: You have friends? I'd have to see that to believe it.

    There is a difference in liars too, say those who tell truckstop superman tales and those who borrow money from people and never seem to have the funds to pay it back.

    And if your words are any judge of your character, from what I've seen so far you have a lot to learn.
     
  10. diesel_weasel

    diesel_weasel Medium Load Member

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    http://www.overdriveonline.com/researcher-rejects-hos-studies/

    The American Trucking Associations on June 9 said an internationally recognized safety researcher has questioned the cache of studies submitted recently by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration to support its hours-of-service proposal, saying the studies contain many problems and shouldn’t be relied on to support the agency’s proposed changes.

    Ronald R. Knipling, former head of FMCSA’s research division and the first American to receive the Order of Merit from the International Road Transport Union for his work on truck safety, questioned the validity of the studies the agency inserted into the docket on May 6 after closing the comment period for its Notice of Proposed Rulemaking. FMCSA reopened the comment period for 30 days for discussion related only to the new documents; the deadline to submit comments was June 9.
    Knipling raised “fundamental criticisms” of a study conducted by researchers at Pennsylvania State University, concluding that the sample of drivers, trucks and crashes, as well as minimal attention paid to other factors in crashes, rendered the study of little value. “It would be erroneous and unwarranted to accept Penn State’s principal findings and conclusions without extensive reanalysis, internal validation and external replication,” he wrote.


    Similarly, Knipling said a study by the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute was lacking and concluded that “more probing and self-challenging analyses must be performed before [the] study[’s] findings can be accepted as sound science.”


    Regarding a study of Florida transit bus drivers, Knipling concluded that the “significant differences between Florida’s transit bus operator work rules and those for interstate truck drivers render schedule-related research findings for one largely inapplicable to the other.”


    Knipling also submitted a summary of his own work on the subject. He found that fatigue related to lack of prior sleep, being awake for more than 16 hours and early-morning driving was associated with many single vehicle truck crashes, while fatigue “related only to driving and work schedules (e.g., as prescribed by daily hours-of-service rules) were not. This non association was confirmed by several different types of analyses.” In addition, Knipling noted the risk of all types of truck crashes increased during daytime driving “consistent with increased exposure.”


    Bill Graves, ATA president and chief executive officer, said Knipling’s review of FMCSA’s studies underscores the weakness of the agency’s case for changing the hours-of-service rules.
     
  11. delta5

    delta5 Road Train Member

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    I can see one good thing coming from the implementation of E-logs (hopefully). I am hoping that a pay package overhaul will come with the new CSA deal and the e-logs. I want to know how I am supposed to make money with a pay package like Butler Transport was offering. They start everyone at 28cpm + per diem with NO (0) detention pay. Throw in the Qualcomm e-log system, you wont make any money when you are sitting at customers for 12-14 hours waiting on freight. I have mixed emotions about e-logs, but its time for these craphole trucking companies to stop taking advantage of good drivers for free...
     
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