Old Carolina Freight Carries Corporation

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  1. LTL Bull

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    Just curious if they’re any old CFCC hands on here. I personally never drove for them but I did work at the Toledo Ohio Braakbulk.
     
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  3. MACK E-6

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    Where Estes is now?
     
  5. LTL Bull

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    That’s the one. He’s inaccurate in a number of things though. Estes was our interline carrier in the southeast, they were much more regional at that point. Also ABF did not “shut Carolina down”. The CFCC union workers were dovetailed into ABF seniority lists which made for some interesting work environments. The other smaller carriers weren’t as much pressure as the double breasting of union and non union don’t, the biggest example being the various Con Ways and Consolidated Freight. What really put the nail in the coffin was the last National Master Freight strike which CFCC ironically worked through. However the strike drove a lot of freight from union carriers to non union carriers. There wa rampant speculation that UPS had a large interest in purchasing CFCC to break into the LTL market but they held off on that till the Overnite deal which allowed them (UPS) to get out from under the NMFA and negotiate directly with the teamsters.
    He also doesn’t mention Red Arrow Freightlines in the Texas Oklahoma area that was part of us . Good info but more to the story
     
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  6. LTL Bull

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    That’s the one, Angola Road. CFCC built that barn and I started working there in 87. They doubled the size and moved linehaul out to it’s own building in 89 or so. Spent many a night on that dock on a tow motor or pushing a freight cart. Was supposed to have a dragline installed but that never happened. Roadway terminal up off Alexis road had one. Pretty cool you can still see remains of it even though it’s an LKQ truck parts business now
     
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  7. LTL Bull

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    I had forgotten about that thread Mack. I’m not to sharp with these search things and stuff on social media. I’ll confine myself to that thread for the future
     
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    I had a lay down bid to that terminal but got sick of the bunk house and wanted more miles.
     
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  9. LTL Bull

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    Where were you domiciled out of?
     
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    Syracuse
     
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  11. LTL Bull

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    That had to have been a fun little turn through the winter months. I actually found a cat one night in a buffalo trailer. The trailer had closed out Friday night around 2100 and we broke it open Sunday night to break the freight for Monday . Popped open the back and the cat came flying out. It was middle of January and temps that weekend had been in single digits for daytime highs and subzero overnight all weekend. Took her home and named her Carolina. She far outlived her namesake. So there’s one immigrant from western New York. Seems we used to regularly load rag top pups to either Rochester or Syracuse for a customer that shipped metal tube. Do you recall them?
     
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