P2F(Passenger To Freighter)Aircraft Conversion Market Heating Up

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  1. mjd4277

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    Have Boeing 747-8,will travel!!LOL
     
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  3. REO6205

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    Would you like to haul live crabs from Alaska to Japan? The tankage and plumbing involved in keeping the crabs alive kinda rules out any chance for a back haul but if you register in a third world country and get staff that have been fired from other carriers you can keep your costs down. This is an actual response a friend of mine got when he was pimping for an air freight company.
    The response came from Nigeria. Really, it did.
     
  4. mjd4277

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    Why sell ourselves short? A few runs around the Caribbean,maybe a jaunt or two around Australia-that Boeing 767 will pay itself off in no time!!;)
    “Here at MJD’s Aircraft Marketplace people thought we were crazy when we started slashing prices on our recently acquired Boeing 747-400s!!”
    “Take your pick-General Electric,Pratt & Whitney or Rolls Royce powered-we’ve got them all to satisfy your fleet commonality needs!!”
     
  5. REO6205

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    LOL...there you go. Certain kinds of cargo don't take up much room at all. They can, however ruin your social activities for the next 15 to 25 tears. :oops:
    Before California started growing a lot of pot most of the weed used to come out of Mexico. It was kinda like the old prohibition rum runner days. Nobody got too excited and hardly anybody got hurt. A gentleman's game, if you will.
    That all changed when coke started coming in. That was a whole different cast of characters and there was nothing gentlemanly about them. Like a friend of mine who got out of it said..."When the best thing that could happen to you was getting arrested in the United States as opposed to being disappeared in Columbia it makes you think a little harder if the money is worth it".
    A guy I worked with disappeared running coke. Nobody knows where or how but one day he just wasn't around any more and in the twenty years since he hasn't turned up. Last seen he was headed south in a Aero Commander to pick up a load. No sign of the plane either.
     
  6. mjd4277

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    More than likely the guy was shot down,either by machine gun fire or a Sidewinder up the tailpipe! Colombia,Peru and Chile were especially known to take a hardline stance against drug running aircraft(shoot first,ask questions later).
    There was one particular cartel leader in Mexico who was nicknamed “Lord of the Skies” because he had a fleet of Boeing 727s that he used in the drug trade!
    Amado Carrillo Fuentes - Wikipedia
     
  7. REO6205

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    That's kind of what we figured. Those countries aren't under any obligation to let us know what they do. Another scenario is that the people he was hauling for got nervous about him for one reason or another and got rid of him.
    Any way you cut it, they weren't the kind of people you could work for and feel good about it.
     
  8. Another Canadian driver

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    DOLE banana loads from Ecuador to anywhere USA.
    Backhauls is empty or very sporadic Ecuador imports.
    DOLE wants to skip the unreliable USA west coast ports and the boats moving their fruit loads.
     
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  9. D.Tibbitt

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    In all seriousness is there a "spot market" and freight brokers for air freight like there is for trucks?
     
  10. REO6205

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    Yup. It's a little harder to get your foot in the door though. It's just as cut throat competitive as trucking, maybe more so. I know a couple of people that fly non-sched freight and they go all over the world.
    One of them flys a 747 freighter for Atlas. We've had a running joke going on for years...
    Him...Hey Terry, where you been and what you been doing?
    Me....Let's see, Red Bluff, Corning, Chico, Quincy, Oroville....you know, same old boring stuff. Where you been?
    Him...Oh, same old boring stuff for me too.... New York, London, Rome, Saigon, Paris, San Francisco...all the usual places..:rolleyes:
     
  11. mjd4277

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    Atlas Air has been on a buying binge as well as the usual freighter customers-they’re preparing to receiving the very last Boeing 747 ever built(originally UPS was to be the last customer).
     
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