I was just told by my boss we're required to carry ELD back up paper logs in case ELD quits working. They're supposed to be different from regular paper logs.
Anyone know of this?
Paper back-up logs
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by mitmaks, Aug 16, 2018.
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NFW,, must of heard him wrong or meant a paper log book.
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Regular paper logs are what I carry, preprinted with all the company name and address just like they have always been
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Our compliance officer just went through my documentation folder and put new log forms in it. Just 8 paper logs are all that's required
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I got pulled over in Iowa and I made sure to ask.
He told me I had to keep a user manual for my eld
And specially 8 days of paper logs Incase the eld goes bad. -
This is for ELD:
8 days paper log. There are no special log books needed. JJKeller does print "ELD backup log books" but that's just marketing.
User manual.
Data transfer instructions.
ELD failure instruction.
AOBR's have diffrent requirements.
Enough log files to recreate the trip.
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What pray tell are 8 blank log pages going to do for you after your log goes south?
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I had a battery issue just this past Monday. Battery shorted or something, anyway, once Ryder replaced the batteries, I got back in the truck & ELD wouldn't fire up... I guess its fried. So, I brought out the old trusty paper logs that dont run electricity & been using it all week. They ordered me a new one & was supposed to come in today (Friday), but I dont know if it did. If not, I'll still be on paper come Monday.
If I aint wrong, I think the rule is that you can only run paper logs for 48 hrs before getting ELD repaired or replaced. I could be wrong but, whatever. If it aint right, I guess they can write us a ticket.
Just FYI, I did save/keep the DVIR that Ryder & I filled out showing I had electrical issues & the ELD fried. That dont get me a new one in 2 days but at least I have the paperwork. -
Seems to me that a fella would only need 2 blank pages to comply with the 48 hrs. Being as though 8 are required, I would surmise the FMCSA logic, if you can call it that, is that the driver honestly and accurately go back in time 8 days and recreate all four lines with 15 minute accuracy. Good friggin luck
NEar as I can tell, The only practical way a single truck O/O can protect himself against ELog failure is to maintain two logs all the time.....Elog and paper backup so he always has 8 days of logs on hand for when it craps out. So much for the time saving argument.
The whole GD thing is a steaming pile of Horse manure.Last edited: Aug 17, 2018
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