Paper log & relieve Driver question.

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  1. albertoroa01

    albertoroa01 Bobtail Member

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    so I have a question and I can’t seem to get the right answer, people telling me different ways.

    So ok
    I was driving from Irving.Tx to home base/terminal in Chicago.IL in a day cab. My driving hours ended at loves in INA,IL

    During the drive my boss told me that he needed the flat bed load ASAP, and that he was sending a “relieve driver” to take over after my hours were done about 4hrs away from our terminal at the loves locations. Ok everything fine.
    But now my question is do How do I mark this on my paper logbook? We run paper logs older peterbilt semis. Some people
    We’re telling to go off duty on log and the other driver starts their own log. Like regular log. And some people were telling me that I have to put other driver as a team Driver? But no on Eli’s 100percent sure. I’m confused? Just don’t want problems with dot.
    I dropped of semi at loves and driver was driven to loves buy a friend I was then driven back by the friend driver to terminal to. Pick up my personal car and head home.
     
  2. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I would log you (the first driver) off duty and "off truck" in INA, Il. the time you actually did this. No need to fudge. Then note personal transportation in remarks section bact to terminal. The relief driver should note personal transportation from terminal to the truck and tehn start his log. Team logging won't work (legally) unless you fudged it. (after the fact) Make sense ?
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    You're right. Team logging he has to show sleeper berth, but his day cab doesn't have a sleeper berth.
     
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  4. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    The releaf driver actually needs to log on duty (not driving) on the trip to pick up the truck.
    The op can go off duty while waiting on the releaf driver, but will need to go on duty (not driving) for the drive back.

    This is because both of the drivers are moving at the direction of the motor carrier

    Now this does assume the releaf driver is driving a non-cmv (pick up, car, etc) and the op os told to drive the car back.
     
  5. albertoroa01

    albertoroa01 Bobtail Member

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    The relief Driver was driven to the location of semi. That same non cdl Driver drove me back to our terminal(office worker/friend)
     
  6. Lazer

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    Dont worry about the other driver.
    You log on duty not driving from the time you stopped driving untill you are back into the yard, finished paperwork, then you go off clock just before you walk out door to your vehicle.
     
  7. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Close but not exactly right. Yes, the relief driver needs to be logged on-duty not driving while being transported to recovery the truck. The OP cn be logged off-duty as soon as he parks, and as long as he is given a full ten hour break upon returning to the terminal he can show the entire time travelling at the discretion of the motor carrier (riding with the office person) as off-duty. This is quite common in the driveway segment where drivers use their personal cars, buses, planes and such to get from truck to truck.


    395.1 (j) Travel time—(1) When a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver at the direction of the motor carrier is traveling, but not driving or assuming any other responsibility to the carrier, such time must be counted as on-duty time unless the driver is afforded at least 10 consecutive hours off duty when arriving at destination, in which case he/she must be considered off duty for the entire period.
     
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  8. TripleSix

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    On your paper log, there’s a spot for CO-Driver’s name. When you get stopped, you flag your location of stopping and then go sleeper. He comes in 4 hours later and he will log on duty pre trip and do his 4 hour drive back to the terminal. When you get back to the terminal, flag the location on your log but then draw your line from sleeper to off duty.
     
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    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    He was in a daycab, relief driver was driven to him and he road back to the terminal with someone from the office. If he had a sleeper, absolutely correct.
     
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  10. TripleSix

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    Missed the daycab part. Thanks.
     
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