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Message:: [QUOTE="keelady, post: 102087, member: 3583"]The school requires a permit -- I believe all states require you to have a permit and a licensed driver in order to operate a commercial vehicle on the road if you do not have a cdl.  All I had to do was go to the Secretary of State and take the test.  In Michigan, you can take the test as many times as you need to, and you only pay when you are issued your permit.  Of course, Michigan doesn't let you get away with just paying $25 for the permit, you also need a Chauffer's license -- which is another $35.  There was no separate test for the Chauffer's license -- just gotta pay.  I'm sure if there's a state out there that doesn't require a permit, then someone will correct me, but I know all of the schools I looked at either needed a permit before you start, or they spend the first day or so helping you study for it and you take the test and get the permit as part of your schooling.[/QUOTE]