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<p>[QUOTE="Mike2633, post: 9821938, member: 117804"]<b>DSNY 2010 Snow Blizzard</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><img src="https://bastardtype.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/blogny04.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Some supervisors at the DSNY regard garbage pick up and street sweeping as just busy work, and do nothing, but plan for snow season all year.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well over the years New York City has had quite a few memorable snow storms. One of the largest most memorable ones was the Christmas time snow storm of 2010 which gave the department of sanitation a major black eye.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg was the mayor of New York City in 2010 and he hired his buddy, Stephen Goldsmith to be the Deputy Mayor of New York City for Operations. Bloomberg wanted this guy Goldsmith to stream line and fix some of the cities problems. Goldsmith was the former Mayor of Indianapolis, IN from 1992 to 1999 serving (2) terms as Mayor of Indianapolis. Of which The City of Indianapolis, Indiana botched up two snow storms in 1994 due to Goldsmiths incompetence.</p><p><img src="https://wasteadvantagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/IMG_22312.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><i>City of Indianapolis, Indiana Department of Public Works Refuse Collection Truck. </i></p><p><i><img src="http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/XagsY__V_RY/hqdefault.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></i></p><p>Anyhow Goldsmith was the bureaucrat at City Hall who the department heads of the DSNY, FDNY , NYPD and other city agencies reported to.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well Bloomberg appointed Goldsmith to chief destruction officer and Goldsmith started screwing with the DSNY and laying off and knocking down bottom level supervisors he cut 200 of them or something like that and botched the entire department up and basically even though he wasn't qualified at all and knew nothing of how the DSNY operated or for that matter how the City of Indianapolis Department of Public Works Operated that didn't stop Goldsmith</p><p><br /></p><p>Goldsmith also had a knack for wanting to run everything him self basically the same way BFI remember this company BFI:</p><p><img src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7522/15624239826_b393665063_b.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>From the 1980s and 1990s, BFI collapsed under it's own weight in 1999 when it got to big and heavy trying to run all it's branches and terminals from a 1 size fits all heavy handed ivory tower corporate structure.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well Stephen Goldsmith did things the same way in Indianapolis and New York City he ran everything from a one size fits all heavy handed top down corporate structure, turn the plows left, turn the plows right no salt, salt no salt. Man didn't know what he was doing and it's why he botched up the 1994 snow storm in Indianapolis and it's why he botched up the 2010 snow storm in New York City.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now after the 1994 snow debacle in Indianapolis, Goldsmith went down to the DPW department and said okay boys your in charge from here on out and let the supervisors and department heads at the department of public works manage the snow and garbage and after that surprise they didn't have any problems.</p><p><br /></p><p>To be fair where I live the City of Cleveland, Ohio screws up snow and garbage removal every now and then, but there kind of hit and miss on 2014 they botched up snow removal and stopped listening to the residents who complain and instead followed there own map and routing, they got some new equipment too and past couple years haven't been so bad.</p><p><br /></p><p>City of Cleveland also had some trouble with their sanitation department, but this decade 2010-2019 they also switched over to automation and some of there trucks I can tell, they've had newer garbage truck bodies put on older cabs and chassis, City of Cleveland has an absolute hodgepodge mix of equipment, which makes it hard I think on the department mechanics to fix things, City of Cleveland though there troubles seem to come and go, right now there in a better spot. They did have some malfunctioning arms on some of the older automated trucks, but that's since been rectified.</p><p><br /></p><p>But the City of Cleveland there fleets a mess, old, new, old with new body, like I can tell I'll see a City of Cleveland side load garbage truck the cab and chassis will be an older cab and chassis and you can tell somewhere for all I know could have been done at the city's garage down town they had a new body trucked in and the city put the new body on the old cab and chassis. But the city of Cleveland has a mess of CCC, Peterbuilt, Mack, International and Freightliner and Autocar/WhiteGMC.</p><p><br /></p><p>Garbage bodies are just as bad, Newway, Loadmaster, Heil, Leach, Labre. They seem to hop around those different manufacturers I don't know how they determine these things, if they are going by cheapest bidder, I know the government likes to go by cheapest bidder or pretends too, but I don't always think that's the case, or even always right at times, I think there are certain specifications they have. The problem with the City of Cleveland is and this is a problem for the entire city not just the sanitation department, they have no rules for when maintenance should be done or what kind of preventative maintenance should be done and it also flows down to the police and fire departments.</p><p><br /></p><p>I swear the city of Cleveland just when they get into a jam they start buying one off stuff, it used to be all the garbage trucks were flat grey that was there color. Now they have some white and some other colors and what happens is they used to buy them in lots one year they might buy 15 Loadmasters now it's like well half the fleet is broken down we need some trucks lets buy some new ones and they just call up and buy what's ever available on the lot where ever they can get them from.</p><p><br /></p><p>DSNY does not operate nearly as sloppy as The City of Cleveland. All trucks go in for maintenance every 90 days they have inspection guidelines, all trucks are either Mack MRU or Mack Terra Pro Cab and Chassis. Most of the garbage truck bodies are Heil Formula 5000 and some McNeilous, but the fleet is a lot more streamlined, it's easier for the shop to work on stuff when there always working on the same things.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyhow, sorry about that tangent I went off. So the winter of 2010 a bad weather system stalled out right around Christmas time at the earlier part of the decade (man can you believe the decade is over already? I thought just yesterday it was 2010, where did the time go?) Anyhow a weather system stalled out and at first it really wasn't to bad and the DSNY was able to hold on and keep the roads clear.</p><p><br /></p><p>But the problem was the plows were not deployed correctly and snow was falling at about a foot per hour over night, they didn't have the routes set up right for that kind of thing and the department needed a snow emergency called which puts a parking ban in parts of the city, well DSNY cannot call a snow emergency only the mayor can and surprise, Mike Bloomberg was nowhere to be found and neither was deputy mayor Goldsmith.</p><p><br /></p><p>So in a rare move the DSNY called for the Department of Transportation and other agencies to help them out usually they do not do that. Anyhow the snow storm got away from the DSNY and it all went to heck, yes it did.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://imamook.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/nyc-blizzard2.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Over 200 MTA buses were stuck, fire trucks, police cars, DSNY snow plows all stuck in the snow.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/26/251618EA00000578-2926928-image-a-61_1422289306387.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>DSNY trucks stuck in the snow:</p><p><img src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fvh0lSv11-I/maxresdefault.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>A truck would get stuck in the snow and they would send some helpers out to get the truck and that truck would get stuck and then another truck would get stuck. City of New York didn't deploy or have enough tow trucks to grab all the stuck snow plows. It was pretty bad.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also I don't know who was in charge of this I think Goldsmith or some big shot, but they put a no salt order out during the snow storm and failed to call a snow emergency. So supervisors and managers in certain districts couldn't salt even if they knew better because top down heavy one size fits all mismanagement from city hall told them they could not salt.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, a no salt order was put into place and because City Hall didn't want to let the workers work and the managers manage the entire thing was botched up. It was a complete embarrassment to the DSNY.</p><p>A lot of the bottom level middle managers were appalled by the lack of leadership from City Hall, this storm did hurt Goldsmith he investigated and waffled and eventually was arrested for beating his wife, spent two nights in jail, he was let go and no charges were actually filed, but after that he stepped down he had figured in his 14 months as deputy mayor he did enough damage and it was time to go. Plus now he was labeled a drunken wife beater and that didn't help him nobody in Indianapolis or NYC misses him.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Mike2633, post: 9821938, member: 117804"][B]DSNY 2010 Snow Blizzard [/B] [IMG]https://bastardtype.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/blogny04.jpg[/IMG] Some supervisors at the DSNY regard garbage pick up and street sweeping as just busy work, and do nothing, but plan for snow season all year. Well over the years New York City has had quite a few memorable snow storms. One of the largest most memorable ones was the Christmas time snow storm of 2010 which gave the department of sanitation a major black eye. Now presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg was the mayor of New York City in 2010 and he hired his buddy, Stephen Goldsmith to be the Deputy Mayor of New York City for Operations. Bloomberg wanted this guy Goldsmith to stream line and fix some of the cities problems. Goldsmith was the former Mayor of Indianapolis, IN from 1992 to 1999 serving (2) terms as Mayor of Indianapolis. Of which The City of Indianapolis, Indiana botched up two snow storms in 1994 due to Goldsmiths incompetence. [IMG]https://wasteadvantagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/IMG_22312.jpg[/IMG] [I]City of Indianapolis, Indiana Department of Public Works Refuse Collection Truck. [IMG]http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/XagsY__V_RY/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG][/I] Anyhow Goldsmith was the bureaucrat at City Hall who the department heads of the DSNY, FDNY , NYPD and other city agencies reported to. Well Bloomberg appointed Goldsmith to chief destruction officer and Goldsmith started screwing with the DSNY and laying off and knocking down bottom level supervisors he cut 200 of them or something like that and botched the entire department up and basically even though he wasn't qualified at all and knew nothing of how the DSNY operated or for that matter how the City of Indianapolis Department of Public Works Operated that didn't stop Goldsmith Goldsmith also had a knack for wanting to run everything him self basically the same way BFI remember this company BFI: [IMG]https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7522/15624239826_b393665063_b.jpg[/IMG] From the 1980s and 1990s, BFI collapsed under it's own weight in 1999 when it got to big and heavy trying to run all it's branches and terminals from a 1 size fits all heavy handed ivory tower corporate structure. Well Stephen Goldsmith did things the same way in Indianapolis and New York City he ran everything from a one size fits all heavy handed top down corporate structure, turn the plows left, turn the plows right no salt, salt no salt. Man didn't know what he was doing and it's why he botched up the 1994 snow storm in Indianapolis and it's why he botched up the 2010 snow storm in New York City. Now after the 1994 snow debacle in Indianapolis, Goldsmith went down to the DPW department and said okay boys your in charge from here on out and let the supervisors and department heads at the department of public works manage the snow and garbage and after that surprise they didn't have any problems. To be fair where I live the City of Cleveland, Ohio screws up snow and garbage removal every now and then, but there kind of hit and miss on 2014 they botched up snow removal and stopped listening to the residents who complain and instead followed there own map and routing, they got some new equipment too and past couple years haven't been so bad. City of Cleveland also had some trouble with their sanitation department, but this decade 2010-2019 they also switched over to automation and some of there trucks I can tell, they've had newer garbage truck bodies put on older cabs and chassis, City of Cleveland has an absolute hodgepodge mix of equipment, which makes it hard I think on the department mechanics to fix things, City of Cleveland though there troubles seem to come and go, right now there in a better spot. They did have some malfunctioning arms on some of the older automated trucks, but that's since been rectified. But the City of Cleveland there fleets a mess, old, new, old with new body, like I can tell I'll see a City of Cleveland side load garbage truck the cab and chassis will be an older cab and chassis and you can tell somewhere for all I know could have been done at the city's garage down town they had a new body trucked in and the city put the new body on the old cab and chassis. But the city of Cleveland has a mess of CCC, Peterbuilt, Mack, International and Freightliner and Autocar/WhiteGMC. Garbage bodies are just as bad, Newway, Loadmaster, Heil, Leach, Labre. They seem to hop around those different manufacturers I don't know how they determine these things, if they are going by cheapest bidder, I know the government likes to go by cheapest bidder or pretends too, but I don't always think that's the case, or even always right at times, I think there are certain specifications they have. The problem with the City of Cleveland is and this is a problem for the entire city not just the sanitation department, they have no rules for when maintenance should be done or what kind of preventative maintenance should be done and it also flows down to the police and fire departments. I swear the city of Cleveland just when they get into a jam they start buying one off stuff, it used to be all the garbage trucks were flat grey that was there color. Now they have some white and some other colors and what happens is they used to buy them in lots one year they might buy 15 Loadmasters now it's like well half the fleet is broken down we need some trucks lets buy some new ones and they just call up and buy what's ever available on the lot where ever they can get them from. DSNY does not operate nearly as sloppy as The City of Cleveland. All trucks go in for maintenance every 90 days they have inspection guidelines, all trucks are either Mack MRU or Mack Terra Pro Cab and Chassis. Most of the garbage truck bodies are Heil Formula 5000 and some McNeilous, but the fleet is a lot more streamlined, it's easier for the shop to work on stuff when there always working on the same things. Anyhow, sorry about that tangent I went off. So the winter of 2010 a bad weather system stalled out right around Christmas time at the earlier part of the decade (man can you believe the decade is over already? I thought just yesterday it was 2010, where did the time go?) Anyhow a weather system stalled out and at first it really wasn't to bad and the DSNY was able to hold on and keep the roads clear. But the problem was the plows were not deployed correctly and snow was falling at about a foot per hour over night, they didn't have the routes set up right for that kind of thing and the department needed a snow emergency called which puts a parking ban in parts of the city, well DSNY cannot call a snow emergency only the mayor can and surprise, Mike Bloomberg was nowhere to be found and neither was deputy mayor Goldsmith. So in a rare move the DSNY called for the Department of Transportation and other agencies to help them out usually they do not do that. Anyhow the snow storm got away from the DSNY and it all went to heck, yes it did. [IMG]https://imamook.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/nyc-blizzard2.jpg[/IMG] Over 200 MTA buses were stuck, fire trucks, police cars, DSNY snow plows all stuck in the snow. [IMG]https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/26/251618EA00000578-2926928-image-a-61_1422289306387.jpg[/IMG] DSNY trucks stuck in the snow: [IMG]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fvh0lSv11-I/maxresdefault.jpg[/IMG] A truck would get stuck in the snow and they would send some helpers out to get the truck and that truck would get stuck and then another truck would get stuck. City of New York didn't deploy or have enough tow trucks to grab all the stuck snow plows. It was pretty bad. Also I don't know who was in charge of this I think Goldsmith or some big shot, but they put a no salt order out during the snow storm and failed to call a snow emergency. So supervisors and managers in certain districts couldn't salt even if they knew better because top down heavy one size fits all mismanagement from city hall told them they could not salt. So, a no salt order was put into place and because City Hall didn't want to let the workers work and the managers manage the entire thing was botched up. It was a complete embarrassment to the DSNY. A lot of the bottom level middle managers were appalled by the lack of leadership from City Hall, this storm did hurt Goldsmith he investigated and waffled and eventually was arrested for beating his wife, spent two nights in jail, he was let go and no charges were actually filed, but after that he stepped down he had figured in his 14 months as deputy mayor he did enough damage and it was time to go. Plus now he was labeled a drunken wife beater and that didn't help him nobody in Indianapolis or NYC misses him.[/QUOTE]
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