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Message:: [QUOTE="GlassHalfEmpty, post: 9721330, member: 288711"]The Western Star 5700 is made in Cleveland NC alongside Freightliners.  I read somewhere,  that as a consequence, it uses a Cascadia frame. Not sure it would weigh as much as the Western stars made out in Oregon. Either way, WS coming out of Cleveland is crap. My 2019 is plagued with lots of interior fit/finish issues. Virtual Tech hasn't worked since a few weeks after ownership. They can't figure it out. Bad paint with orange peel and foggy clear coat  that easily chips. Buddy who order one at the same time is having the entire hood repainted under warranty because huge sections of paint are letting go. Peels right off. We've both lost lost of money because the truck sits at the dealership getting stuff fixed. One problem is that WS is a semi custom truck, with thousands of possibilities, and Freightliner isn't. With only one WS model coming out of this plant, Cleveland struggles with correctly building the 5700. Long backlog of orders didn't help. Plus Cleveland NC is located in the middle of nowhere, so they struggle with keeping the plant sufficiently staffed with workers. All in all, $150K is a lot of money for what you get. The 5700 sure is pretty to look at, but I think you'll be happier buying a less pretty 4900 built in Oregon.[/QUOTE]