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<p>[QUOTE="ducnut, post: 12220608, member: 55577"]Your logic won’t work. Sliding the 5th away from the cab, backward, puts even more on the drives. You’re already way over on the drives. Follow along closely, here. </p><p><br /></p><p>You loaded to 78,500lbs. That only gives you 1,500lbs of leeway total, across all three axle positions. Because you’re light on the trailer by 3,000lbs, you’re going to be heavy by 1,500lbs, on the tractor. Yes. You have a permit to cover that. But, with your current 5th wheel setting, you’re not properly distributed on the tractor. </p><p><br /></p><p>You need your 5th wheel slid way forward. You need it positioned so you know when you’re sitting at 36,000lbs on the drives, you’re at 12,000lbs on the steers. This would allow you, in the worst case, to be as light as 32,000lbs on the tandems. But, your tractor distribution would be perfect. </p><p><br /></p><p>How this works is: at 80,000lbs, if you’re 32,000lbs on the tandems, you’re 2,000lbs light back there, which means this 2,000lbs would have to be in the nose. Now, you’re 2,000lbs heavy on the drives, which you’re permitted for. Since, you’re only permitted for overage on the drives, AGAIN, you need your 5th wheel set to hit 36,000lbs on the drives at the same time you hit 12,000lbs on the steers, to cover that 2,000lb shift in weight. No matter what, you’d always be perfect on your tractor. Currently, you’re way off. </p><p><br /></p><p>Someone with more experience could have looked at your weights, slid your 5th wheel, and got you legal. You were 1,500lbs under max gross, as a starting point. You were 3,000lbs light on the trailer, that meant you needed to cover that 3,000lbs, at the front of the trailer. You scaled at 3,000lbs over on your drives. You had 2,000lbs of permit on your drives. Now, you’re left to cover the remaining 1,000lbs. That needed to be on your steers, which would’ve left you 500lb to play with and NOT be over weight on any axle position. </p><p><br /></p><p>So once more, you loaded 1,500lbs under gross (your cushion), you’re over at the front of the trailer by 3,000lbs, you have a 2,000lb drive permit, leaving you to put that 1,000lbs on the steers, and you still have 500lb left of the 1,500lb cushion you left yourself. Get your 5th wheel correctly positioned to hit 12,000lbs when the drives hit 36,000lbs and that’ll leave your 2,000lb permit to cover ever being light as much as 2,000lb on your trailer. </p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, for anyone who thinks to set up this operation to be 12K/34K/34K on the axle positions. You can’t. As soon as he’s over on his drives, he’s over on his steers. He has to ensure his weight distribution uses his 2K drive permit as his cushion and the distribution is at 12K/36K, on his tractor. </p><p><br /></p><p>I hope that all made sense.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ducnut, post: 12220608, member: 55577"]Your logic won’t work. Sliding the 5th away from the cab, backward, puts even more on the drives. You’re already way over on the drives. Follow along closely, here. You loaded to 78,500lbs. That only gives you 1,500lbs of leeway total, across all three axle positions. Because you’re light on the trailer by 3,000lbs, you’re going to be heavy by 1,500lbs, on the tractor. Yes. You have a permit to cover that. But, with your current 5th wheel setting, you’re not properly distributed on the tractor. You need your 5th wheel slid way forward. You need it positioned so you know when you’re sitting at 36,000lbs on the drives, you’re at 12,000lbs on the steers. This would allow you, in the worst case, to be as light as 32,000lbs on the tandems. But, your tractor distribution would be perfect. How this works is: at 80,000lbs, if you’re 32,000lbs on the tandems, you’re 2,000lbs light back there, which means this 2,000lbs would have to be in the nose. Now, you’re 2,000lbs heavy on the drives, which you’re permitted for. Since, you’re only permitted for overage on the drives, AGAIN, you need your 5th wheel set to hit 36,000lbs on the drives at the same time you hit 12,000lbs on the steers, to cover that 2,000lb shift in weight. No matter what, you’d always be perfect on your tractor. Currently, you’re way off. Someone with more experience could have looked at your weights, slid your 5th wheel, and got you legal. You were 1,500lbs under max gross, as a starting point. You were 3,000lbs light on the trailer, that meant you needed to cover that 3,000lbs, at the front of the trailer. You scaled at 3,000lbs over on your drives. You had 2,000lbs of permit on your drives. Now, you’re left to cover the remaining 1,000lbs. That needed to be on your steers, which would’ve left you 500lb to play with and NOT be over weight on any axle position. So once more, you loaded 1,500lbs under gross (your cushion), you’re over at the front of the trailer by 3,000lbs, you have a 2,000lb drive permit, leaving you to put that 1,000lbs on the steers, and you still have 500lb left of the 1,500lb cushion you left yourself. Get your 5th wheel correctly positioned to hit 12,000lbs when the drives hit 36,000lbs and that’ll leave your 2,000lb permit to cover ever being light as much as 2,000lb on your trailer. Lastly, for anyone who thinks to set up this operation to be 12K/34K/34K on the axle positions. You can’t. As soon as he’s over on his drives, he’s over on his steers. He has to ensure his weight distribution uses his 2K drive permit as his cushion and the distribution is at 12K/36K, on his tractor. I hope that all made sense.[/QUOTE]
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