"Protect from freezing" dry van experiences.
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by TallJoe, Feb 17, 2019.
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Too bad you can't have alcohol in the truck fridge...SoDel Thanks this.
SoDel Light Load Member
- Jan 4, 2016
Buckeye 60 Road Train Member
not sure on that freezing point on vineger its the best thing for frozen locks also works on frozen brakes. .... cambells soup has a fórmula they use to determine whether to use a dry van or reefer goes by forecasted temperature in route and how long load will be on truck its around 35 cents a mile more for a reefer
A year later, Anno Domini 2020 .... similar experience.
When booking the load, I specifically asked: "What's the product and is it "protect from freezing"? " No, No. It is consumer goods...No; the broker says.
When arriving at the shipper "Do I worry about it getting frozen?" No. It is a baby food, it won't freeze.
I signed the BOL and left. I did not care to notice "protect from freezing" note until later. No excuse. But would I have done anything, again...It would have been the 3rd time last 12 months...that I rejected a load at a shipper due to my concerns. Am I nuts?
I opened the enveloped packing list and it is a variety of juices, not baby food.
I called the shipper and she says "You will be fine...We load it on vans all the time. If you were to drop the trailer for a few days in MN then maybe it would freeze but not in a day and a half" OK.
From the very broker through the shipper I was very,very, very effectively misled as to "protect from freezing" requirement, until after the trailer was loaded. What does that mean? Either I am paranoid, or they are reckless and in case this goes bad they want me to assume the risk of a cargo claim, if it does freeze and is rejected. If I were an owner of a retail store, I'd reject frozen bottles of juices.
When I arrive I will go inside to remove the strap and will take a close peek at those bottles. So f...curious as to what 12F overnight can do to them.
Do I really need to read every little half arss sentence on the BOL? Am I better off presuming brokers and shippers to be scumbags trying to f me up at every corner? Should I have refused to leave the plant and had them offload the truck, waste another day?
I am asking this rhetorically because obviously not only they want you to assume the risk but by their trickery tactics, they want you to be in a position that it is too late to say no. Their tactics are like this: "It should not freeze...Well, if it does, we'll make them to pay." Or Am I paranoid about there being any tactics whatsoever?
It is a comedy.
I was concerned about loading a risky product and I still let them load it.
LOL LOL LOL
I am such a weak dick!
enough of this!
I think, I am getting myself a reefer.Last edited: Jan 17, 2020
Don't pat yourself on the back like this on TT, It is not for it's for!
You should have called the shipper prior to arriving (numbers on Ratecon).
Yes, you should have read the BOL and intervened and without a shade of doubt, rejected the load!
Now you think you can blame the broker and the shipper? That's ridiculous! How many times have you, you idiot, you fool, advocated paying attention to that stuff?
You don't practice what you preach.
If it is a reject, it will give you a goooood lesson.
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You should learn to be more flexible. Learn to remit control of a situation, while also acquiring responsibility for the situation.
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Joe, don’t beat yourself up buddy. You are not a weak dick at all. Most people don’t even think about this stuff. You are being proactive is all. Then, you made a calculated risk decision to go on with it. I’ve hauled bottled water in these conditions in a van and you sure as #### don’t want to break down and also I would idle all night as the vibration helps keep from freezing. You will be fine though.
Edit: but yes if there is a problem and stuff actually hits the fan then all that matters is what’s on paper, 100 verbal yes’s never Beats 1 no written on paper so to speak.
heyns57 Road Train Member
- Dec 30, 2006
When Stroh had a brewery in Detroit, I was forced on a load to Chicago on a Friday, The brewery was slow and I was paid eleven hours of detention waiting to be loaded. Too late to deliver before Monday. I parked at home, the load froze at the bottom of several pallets. Consignee was highly upset. Wanted to know why I didn't put the trailer in a barn or something. Fortunately, the bill of lading said, "RW Service System is not responsible for frozen beer."TallJoe Thanks this.
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