Questions about drug and hire policies

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by jay152, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. jay152

    jay152 Bobtail Member

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    First I do not have an addiction with illegal drugs, however I am worried. I am in truck driving school...passed the piss test...no worries there.
    It's the hair follicle drug test I'm worried about.

    In 2012 I was prescribed twenty 500mg pills for back Pain. On the bottle is says "take as needed", and 2 years later I still have 3 left.
    Had really bad pain the other day....ibuprofen was not working....muscles locked up so I took one....it worked.

    Then today in class they told us about the hair follicle drug test.....I'm screwed.....unless one 500mg hydrocodone pill isn't enough to show up on a test.
    I think I can safely argue that of I still have a 3 pills left after all this time,...that I'm not a drug abuser. "Take as needed" is written on the bottle"
    However....it is two years old prescription.....I don't expect them to take my word that I didn't take someone elses pills.

    So....here are my questions.

    1. if you fail a pre-hire test, will it show up on your DAC and CSA Report even if you haven't worked in the industry before that?

    2. Is one 500mg of hydrocodone gonna even show up? or am I being paranoid? We're talking like one every 1-3 months.

    3. How long out of trucking school will companies hire a driver? Would any time under a year be considered a recent graduate?
     
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  3. just_the

    just_the Light Load Member

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    1) Yes.
    2) Probably not, but I'd go get a home test kit from Walgreens just be sure.
    3) Might have to take a refresher.
     
  4. lovesthedrive

    lovesthedrive R.I.P.

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    The pee test isnt as conclusive as a hair test. The pee test on the immediate will show if you used any contraband in the last week. Altho if it is a prescription see below.

    A prescription for pain medication should have a letter from doctor explaining use and how often used. When you have the pee test, plan on surrendering this letter to the examiner.

    Any company that hires you will declare you a green driver. Whether you drove only in school and didnt get work immediately. Or in my case has some driven miles and experience yet since I have not turned any miles for more than 4 years.
     
  5. jay152

    jay152 Bobtail Member

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    A refresher sounds much safer, than a failed drug test. lol

    Never thought I'd have to be concerned over such a thing.
    In general I hate using drugs....

    Although when I get on the road I bet I'll abuse coffee
    and energy drinks. lol (kidding...mostly)
     
  6. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    If you had the bottle you would no there is no such thing as a 500 mg Hydrocodone. There is 5, 7.5 and 10 mg. You would be dead if you took 500 mg. Also right on the bottle it tells you the prescription expires one year from the date of issue. So you are taking them illegally and I would think they are a bit stale about now. Muscle problems are dealt with by muscle relaxers. Hydrocodone is for nerve pain like in the spine or teeth.

    When you fail a drug test and even before anything is said the MRO doctor will call you on the phone and ask you to explain the situation. You can tell him you hurt your back and that you have a prescription. He might ask you for the prescription number on the bottle or he might ask the issuing doctor or pharmacy to verify it. Since you are covered by HIPPA and health records can't be exchanged without your written consent I would think he would just ask for a prescription number to see if you are on the up and up.
    Once that doctor makes up his mind he'll only tell the company positive or negative. With a good excuse he'll say negative even if it showed up. Hair test are also not recognized DOT drug test. Only the urine sample is and if you passed it then you are okay as far as the DOT goes. If it hits your DAC then I would dispute it. Hair test can only be used by that company.

    I took them things legally for a year for two bad discs. I quit them a couple years ago because they are highly addictive and really don't kill the pain, it only deadens it. I use a tens unit now to deal with the pain. The best thing you can do is flush the rest down the commode. Trucking and opiates is a big no no!
     
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  7. jay152

    jay152 Bobtail Member

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    I looked at the bottle...it said 5-500mg...but now that I think about it it's 5mg Hydrocodone 500mg something else....probably Advil or something..

    Yeah...I'll flush them....I don't want to break the law. Honestly I didn't know it was a problem until today...I thought I was doing things the right way.....glad I know now....cause I could have killed my career before it ever got started.
     
  8. OPUS 7

    OPUS 7 Road Train Member

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    Like Condo said,theyre old..I can't see it failing a drug test for you.
    Smoke prescription marijuana like the rest of the legal Mericans (joke)
     
  9. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    Here's the thing about drug tests. If you test positive for a prescribed drug you're going to get a call from the testing facility first. They're going to tell you that you tested positive for such and such. Then they'll ask if you have a prescription. If you can prove you had or have a prescription the company who sent you in for testing will never know about your positive test.
     
  10. Wooly Rhino

    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    You have received the correct answers above. You will get a call. You will be able to explain what you did and you will get a pass.

    Now let me lecture you. You are a felon. You didn't get caught but you have committed a felony by taking drugs you were not legally allowed to use. I don't think anything bad about you but anytime you think of someone as being a criminal, thank God that you didn't have someone ruin your life over something so minor.

    Strike.
     
  11. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Yeah that second number is Amphetamine which is mixed in with it. I would toss them. Some old medicines can break down and you don't know what it is. I think you'll be okay since you already passed the urine test.
     
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