Rates and fuel mileage

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by aneely87, Jun 20, 2022.

  1. aneely87

    aneely87 Bobtail Member

    Jun 20, 2022
    Drivers, especially owner operators, stop taking loads and under paid prices. Fuel is $6 a gallon and these brokers are paying $3. If we stand on our prices they will increase the pay. You have to stop taking desperate loads at under pay smfh.
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

    May 2, 2021
    I run anything over 2 bucks. Just trying to survive here dude
  4. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

    Jul 6, 2009
    $3 per mile. Truck gets 5 mpg let's say.

    $15 - $6 diesel.

    $9 profit per gallon.

    $2 per mile knocks it down to $4 profit per gallon.

    How much money y'all need for the rest of your expenses?

  5. JoeyJunk

    JoeyJunk Road Train Member

    Dec 31, 2010
    Washington, PA
    Are you saying no loads under $6 per mile?

    Also, you are preaching to the choir. I assume you would like to see a “truckers strike” as well?

    These horses have been beat and beat and beat and beat.
  6. pavrom

    pavrom Road Train Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    NE illinois
    I'd say the horses are dead already...
  7. JoeyJunk

    JoeyJunk Road Train Member

    Dec 31, 2010
    Washington, PA
    People keep propping them up and beating them again. Sick people. LOL
  8. Gliding ProStar

    Gliding ProStar Medium Load Member

    Nov 12, 2016
    Waxahachie, Texas
    I have said this before and I will stand by it... Brokers do not control the amount of money I/We make. Brokers do not run this industry. If you do not like the rate being offered then do not accept the load at the rate being offered. Period. Try to negotiate a better rate that works for you. If they don't want to play ball then move on. Better yet, brush up on your sales skills and start making some calls, sending emails and knocking on doors to market yourself. Make your operation stand out. Go out and get the money that you want to make. You have to fight for what you want. Leave the brokers out of it and get yourself some direct freight. Eliminate the middleman. Learn, understand and know the cost of your operation. Know what it takes to break even and what makes a profit. Do the hard work to succeed.
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  9. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

    Aug 8, 2015
    $3 pm. Who’s paying the big bucks? I’ll take it, meanwhile I suggest others not to move for less than $4 or $5 pm. You’re services are worth more than mine.
  10. ibcalm19

    ibcalm19 Road Train Member

    Nov 30, 2015
    Truth be told it depends on a whole lot of factors. A person or business with very little expenses can weather tough times better than a person or business who has a lot of expenses. They definitely want to work less and produce more for higher profits.
    It is not always the brokers neither. I was listening to a shipper tell the broker he wanted to pay 1k for a 350 mile trip( hope it didn't happen) that's before the brokers cut. probably did. I can recall when JB hunt came in a underbid a contract got rrecruited with sign on bonus & there goes that company and paid drivers a lower rate at that time.
    Most people are not thinking about the other person. If you’re at 6 pm and I run into your shipper when the contract is up & say I can do it for 3.50 pm goodbye 6pm hello 3.50pm. I saw it happen plenty of times.
    As the saying goes "nothing personal just business". Keep your expenses low and weather the storms. If someone can get it cheaper they will unless it truly is personal and not just about business (very few nowadays)
  11. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

    Jun 26, 2020
    South Texas
    All of it. I turned down $3.99 per mile today because he wouldn't come up to $7,500 from $7,000. Going to Colorado of all places, and had a second pick on the way.

    Another one for $4,000. No TWIC, so the escort was $140.
    "Are you okay with that?"
    "Sure, as long as we roll it into the rate."
    "I can't. I'm all in."
    "Well that won't work, because I was going to offer $4,500 before I even knew about the escort."

    I was getting ready to hang it up for the day when a light chain and go popped up at a good price.
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