Regs for Air Brakes under 26,000 GVWR

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by JD329, Nov 8, 2008.

  1. super10

    super10 Light Load Member

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    That is where I was so far off. The company I drove for is a waste remediation/hauler and everything you named above is what was required of me.
     
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  3. JoeF2002

    JoeF2002 Light Load Member

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    I know this post is several years old, but if the original respondents are still around, I wanted to say 'thank you'. The information I found here about the Air Brakes was very useful for me personally. Appreciate it!
     
  4. SmashedKodoma

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    In maine, and probably by FMCSA regulations, between 10k and 26001 lbs requires a DOT medical card. If airbrakes are in vehicle, then it falls under class b cdl
     
  5. Hegemeister

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    There are rental moving vans that have air brakes under 26,001 where anyone with a regular license can rent. I thought only over 26,001 requires CDL or endorsements.
     
  6. MACK E-6

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    We have trucks like that, with air brakes, and class C drivers that drive them. The question I have right now regards the necessity of an air brake endorsement in a C truck.
     
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  7. Accidental Trucker

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    There is no such thing as a "air brake endorsement". Only an air brake restriction on a CDL if you test in a vehicle without them.
     
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  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Wrong. The "basic difference" between the class C and class B is the weights. Class C is single vehicles up to 26,000#. Class B is all single vehicles.

    Take the test in a vehicle without air brakes and you'll have a restriction placed upon your license that prohibits you from driving an air brake equipped truck.

    Take the test in a vehicle with an automatic and you'll have a restriction placed upon your license that prohibits you from driving a truck with a manual transmission.

    There is no short-cut to getting a CDL. You have to take the skills test in a vehicle similar to the one you're going to be operating.
     
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  10. dibstr

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    Almost correct but then that would make it kind of incorrect wouldn't it (Concerning Class C). While correct that the C is for commercial vehicles up to 26,000#, a class C is dependent on one of two endorsements, either a P or an H. Driving commercial vehicles 26,000# and under not requiring a P or H endorsement require no CDL federally.
     
  11. ZVar

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    From Michigan's CDL manual. I'm sure most (all) states are the same.
    https://www.michigan.gov/documents/cdlmanul_16090_7.pdf

    Group A
    Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more, provided the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of any towed vehicles is 10,001 pounds or more. A Group A designation will allow you to operate a Group B or Group C vehicle provided you have the required endorsement.​

    Group B
    Any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle with a GVWR of 10,000 pounds or less.
    A Group B designation will allow you to operate a Group C vehicle provided you have the required endorsement.​

    Group C
    Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that meets neither the definition of Group A nor that of Group B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous and require the motor vehicle to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (49 CFR, part 172, subpart F).
     
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