Regulation Q's for Private Antique Truck in MA

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by 5Tractorguy, Feb 17, 2025.

  1. 5Tractorguy

    5Tractorguy Bobtail Member

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    I have a 12ft flat bed antique truck (24,000GVW) that I use to bring my tractors to shows and move my own equipment. I emailed and called the field office here in MA with these questions and got little help from one person and no response from the other, hoping someone here may be able to assist.

    I have DOT#'s for it, currently deemed Intrastate non-hazmat... Operation classification- "Private Property".
    I was told I only need the numbers if I have my biz placards on the doors. Truck is registered in my name though, NOT my biz. And I do not hire it out for work.

    - What would be required to change the DOT number to "Interstate" instead as I'd like to transport my tractors to NH and CT for shows? What DOT hassles would follow with that change?

    - Or if I removed the business lettering (magnet signs) from the truck and continued to haul my antique tractors to shows either in MA or New England for personal use with no financial gain, what regulations would apply then? If any? And could I do away with the DOT#'s at that point and paste the usual "Not for Hire" on the side?

    Any help is appreciated guys, as I'd like to better understand what I can/can't do here...
     
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  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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  4. RocketScott

    RocketScott Medium Load Member

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    You need to read through and understand the laws of MA and all the states you plan to drive through. Asking someone at the DVM will get you different answers depending on who you talk to. Join the ATHS and reach out to the local chapter. I'm sure there are people already doing what you want to do and they can walk you through it

    https://www.mass.gov/doc/540-cmr-2-motor-vehicle-regulations/download

    Pay attention to the deffinitions of commercial and personal vehicles. I keep a copy of the laws in my truck because private semis aren't a common thing for officers to come accross and most don't know how to deal with it. Having the actual laws to point to helps

    When I shut down my business I transfered my truck into my name personally and put historic/collector plates on it. The (now closed) company name is still on the doors but the DOT numbers are removed. Every state is a little bit different so some of that might not work for you. I looked over the laws linked above and it says something about displaying a company name making it a "commercial plates required vehicle". Do some more research about that
     
  5. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    If you are not using It for business purposes and is registered personally then you shouldn't need any numbers at all.. no different then driving an rv down the road
     
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  6. OldeSkool

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    I really think this is right. If you aren’t using it to make money with then I don’t see why you need to worry about any of that stuff.
     
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  7. 5Tractorguy

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    Thanks guys... Sounds like I'm okay to move around with my tractors since it's not getting used for business.
    Think it's safe to still display my name/number on the door? I could argue the truck is "biz advertising"... Or just leave it off to avoid complications.

    Thanks for the input Scott. I did contact an FMCSA field office, weren't much help though. As time goes I'd like to educate myself better on the DOT laws here around New England. This truck won't be used for biz, but down the road if things keep growing I may have to run a larger GVW truck that will work for the biz.
     
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  8. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

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    @RocketScott and @D.Tibbitt are both right. I second the advice of Rocket. Once you get the regs keep copies of them in all your antique trucks. I’ve had sergeants and lietinents bears in TXDps not know anything about the regs for hobby trucks. They most times don't realize we can turn a commercial vehicle non commercial with change of registration. Here in Tejas we can plate them with an old state plate of the same year as vehicle. If not they issue one antique truck plate, even tho we are a two plate state. We can also register them at 26,000 to keep them under cdl and still pull trailer loaded as long as it is our antique stuff.
     
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  9. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    Ownership rules!

    You cannot be non-commercial if you realize a monetary gain from buying and selling your tractors.

    Otherwise private use just to show N shine your own stuff, and acquiring the next barn find to restore is non-commercial and less than 26000# GVWR avoids fuel tax [IFTA] and apportioned {IRP] registration so your home state license plate is fine.

    I would check into the state regs on having an antique plate rated for the weight you actually haul.

    I saw a bunch of NJ shore dwelling commuters who's 3/4 ton pickups were registered JUST under the weight allowed on the Garden State parkway Above Rt. 18 [no commercial trucks land] even though the GVWR was more so STATE[sic] rules matter most and might require a non-IFTA commercial plate just based on the weight you are toting around.
     
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  10. abyliks

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    Get insurance in your name and you can stick just a straight commercial plate on it (not IRP) is all you need, not even a DOT number

    Straight shine and show no prizes right? Cause if there is then it actually is considered commerce
     
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  11. RocketScott

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    The 26,000 lbs weight isn't an issue for CDL or IFTA. My truck weighs 33,500 and I drive it without a CDL and don't have to deal with IFTA since I'm non-commercial now

    When I moved from WA to KY a few years ago I researched the laws for all the states I would possibly go through. Just about all of them had similar laws, exceptions, exemptions, etc. Oregon is a little different. ODOT wants you to contact them ahead of time so they can issue a hobby exemption letter. It doesn't cost anything and is as simple as writing a letter stating what you're driving and why you're driving it
     
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