Remaining on-duty in a "state of readiness"...

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Scooter Jones, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    people don't really know the law do they.....
     

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  3. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    In near 7 years I don't think I've ever run the 70 out yet
    got up around 63 once or twice. Home terminal meant being in my bed to me. I think it was the way I quick read it. I would put one of the face things now but I think they suk
     
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  4. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    i wonder what dot would say if everyone showed them a letter liike that.

    only letter i ever had from any company simply stated off duty for 2 hours break.
     
  5. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    They would have to accept it since it is allowed and called out for BY LAW that the company can do that.

    And legally, it is only required to be on file in the office.
     
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  6. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    The DOT officer in question for my original thread here on the subject is an idiot. I thought I would start a thread using a real experience to demonstrate just what idiots some of those guys are. Notice I said some, not all. Most of them are okay. In the short 4 plus years I've been driving, I've had at least 10 level 1 to 3 inspections. Not once has a DOT officer called into question the way I posted previously about how I log my time at a shipper or receiver.

    In reality, what Sublime alluded to already regarding the expanded definition of time in a non-moving cmv, a letter like the one linked to from Cross Creek isn't even necessary any more.
     
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  7. scottied67

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    This state of readiness is going to be checked by DOT very hard after July 1st. You are going to be quizzed about your whereabouts and activity at the customer. DOT may even call the customer to verify you were indeed relieved. Remember if the customer requires you to sit in a room, you're on duty.
    If they require you to park in a designated area on their property, you're on duty.
    If they require you to have your CB tuned to a specific channel, you are on duty.
    If they tell you to wait in your truck and monitor the red/green light, you are on duty.
    It is best to give them your phone number and ask to walk off the property while they load, even going to the sleeper now may not qualify as 'relieved' and you could be shut down for 10 hours for violating 30 minute break rule or falsifying logs.
     
  8. RickG

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    You cannot produce regulations to confirm any of the above .
    The handbook of the carrier I drove for states if a customer handles all unloading duties we may leave the vehicle and log off duty if we leave the keys in the truck and there is someone present qualified to move the truck .
     
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    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.2&guidence=y&keyword=34%20hour
     
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  10. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    Do you really think them people are that samrt? they'll just create a lie and try and make people believe it.
    I been asked questions many times and I just tell you don't say or I'm supposed to have that? can you tell me where in the breenbook it states that?
     
  11. wis bang

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    Most of the relief from duty letters I saw from tankers did not contain the last paragraph. We used to allow some time off duty for the lab after checking in and later unloading on line 4. Tanker drivers are much more involved in the loading and unloading process so it is much harder to be off duty 'cept at those places where you hand in the keys and go wait in the driver's 'room' until they are done playing Mad Scientist w/ your trailer...
     
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